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Q: Does iPad 2 WiFi Really Have No GPS???

The tech specs page shows no GPS on the Wifi model, is this true? If so that is absolutely ridiculous, why would they leave out the GPS from the WiFi model???

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Posted on Mar 2, 2011 12:05 PM

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  • by arzu155,

    arzu155 arzu155 Sep 7, 2011 5:16 PM in response to Stasis88
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    Sep 7, 2011 5:16 PM in response to Stasis88

    Stasis88 wrote:

     

    The tech specs page shows no GPS on the Wifi model, is this true? If so that is absolutely ridiculous, why would they leave out the GPS from the WiFi model???
  • by Angelo Costa Rosa,

    Angelo Costa Rosa Angelo Costa Rosa Sep 19, 2011 1:06 AM in response to Stasis88
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    Sep 19, 2011 1:06 AM in response to Stasis88

    Hi antiguangenius, can you please advise the program that you are using?

     

    Best Regards

     

    Angelo Rosa

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM in response to Angelo Costa Rosa
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    Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM in response to Angelo Costa Rosa

    "Hi antiguangenius, can you please advise the program that you are using?"

     

    He is using MotionX, which requires a 3G iPad (which has GPS) or an external GPS receiver (with Bluetooth, which he is using).

  • by Roosevelt Jones,

    Roosevelt Jones Roosevelt Jones Sep 19, 2011 7:01 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Sep 19, 2011 7:01 PM in response to Chris CA

    The Motion X app does not require actual GPS hardware. It will display that it is using internal/external GPS hardware if it is available but it is actually not a GPS hardware specific app. I believe antiguagenius was using several different apps, hardware devices and tablet systems. He may have been using the app for the Dual GPS device in addition to the Motion X app. Sorry for not going back through the thread. I am not sure if there are any Bluetooth GPS receivers available for the iOS devices. All that I am aware of connect through the dock port.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Sep 19, 2011 7:31 PM in response to Roosevelt Jones
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    Sep 19, 2011 7:31 PM in response to Roosevelt Jones
  • by richfromberkley,

    richfromberkley richfromberkley Sep 20, 2011 3:07 AM in response to Chris CA
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    Sep 20, 2011 3:07 AM in response to Chris CA

    I use the Dual GPS unit which is bluetooth.  I also use the free  Nav free, which works great, at times without the GPS unit when I either have wireless access or there is triangulation.  I plan on purchasing the Navicon App soon,

     

    My iPad 2 is a 32g wi-fi only unit.  Make sure your clock is set correctly to have the gps work.

  • by Angelo Costa Rosa,

    Angelo Costa Rosa Angelo Costa Rosa Sep 20, 2011 3:27 AM in response to Stasis88
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    Sep 20, 2011 3:27 AM in response to Stasis88

    Hi Rick,

     

    I'm in Latvia but i have my time set up from Portugal, do you mean that i need to have in Latvia time?

     

    I don't have yet the GPS unit, but i have Nokia E71 with GPS. Is it possible to pair them via bluetooth and IPAD use the GPS signal from Nokia?

  • by Roosevelt Jones,

    Roosevelt Jones Roosevelt Jones Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM in response to richfromberkley
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    Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM in response to richfromberkley

    Chris and Rich: Thanks for the information on the Bluetooth GPS receivers.

  • by holoduke,

    holoduke holoduke Sep 25, 2011 10:04 PM in response to Stasis88
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    Sep 25, 2011 10:04 PM in response to Stasis88

    i find it hard to believe that ipad 2 wifi only version has no built in gps. i have 16 gb wifi only ipad2 purchased a couple weeks ago. i have installed mapquest app on my ipad, and loaded it using my work place wifi. i then loaded the directions to my house. the map from my work to home was now cached in the memory. on the way home, i stpped at a liquor and out of curiousity, i opened mapquest it locked into the position i was at where there was no internet connection available. i now use my dummy cell phone, sonyericsson tm506 to tether it via its bluetooth to my ipad. google maps does work and also does the mapquest. i now believe that it's not the iphone that's giving ipad the ability to use positional service. there must be gps unit on wifi only version of ipad, and if not, my ipad must be a defective unit in apple's sense because it seems to do more than what apple stated on their ipad specs page and lucky me. heh

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Sep 25, 2011 10:50 PM in response to holoduke
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    Sep 25, 2011 10:50 PM in response to holoduke

    The wifi only iPad can pick up locations of wifi spots around town, even if you do not have an actual internet connection.

  • by holoduke,

    holoduke holoduke Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM in response to Chris CA

    I just tried this. I turned off wifi and bluetooth from the settings. left work, and came home. loaded mapquest, and it panned and centered to my current position. This could mean either, there must be a gps unit built in to wifi only ipad, or wifi setting does not really turn off wifi feature completely. Or better yet, I must be the lucky one to have purchased a non-3g model which apple accidently included a gps unit.

     

    Try this for yourself. (if you have wifi only unit)

     

    Install Maqquest on your ipad, load the directions from one place to another while on wifi connectiono so the maps from starting position to destination would be cached into memory. now you can locate yourself anywhere in between these two locations without having wifi or bluetooth turned on.

     

    i'm not trying to be trolling or anything, but it really makes me wonder how ipad can locate itself without a built in gps.

     

    the gps apps i have tested actually do locate my position on the map with or without network connection (if the map is cached) even with the wifi and bluetooth actually turned off in the settings.

     

    Some apps do not install with message "your ipad is not compatible blah blah", but apps like waze, mapquest (for iphone), and GaiaLite do install fine and they do locate me at the position even with wifi turned off.

  • by MultiplePerspectives,

    MultiplePerspectives MultiplePerspectives Sep 26, 2011 7:29 PM in response to Stasis88
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    Sep 26, 2011 7:29 PM in response to Stasis88

    This was my question also.

    So I asked the Apple Retail Store manager.

    He said only the WiFi 3G has GPS and only if a ATT or Verizon contract is activated.

     

    Well, its wrong. Only the 3G model has a GPS but a cellular contract is not required to turn on GPS.

     

    Assisted GPS is only used by Google Maps.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Sep 26, 2011 7:33 PM in response to MultiplePerspectives
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    Sep 26, 2011 7:33 PM in response to MultiplePerspectives

    A-GPS is used by any map/GPS app on the iPad, not just Google Maps.

  • by MultiplePerspectives,

    MultiplePerspectives MultiplePerspectives Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM in response to deggie
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    Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM in response to deggie

    "A-GPS is used by any map/GPS app on the iPad, not just Google Maps."

     

    Very incorrect.

    Only Google Maps has access to A-GPS.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM in response to MultiplePerspectives
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    Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM in response to MultiplePerspectives

    "Assisted GPS is only used by Google Maps."

     

    This is incorrect.

    The GPS chip uses assisted GPS, not an app. The apps simply get the coordinates from the GPS receiver. They don't care/know if it is assisted or not.

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