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Q: Does iPad 2 WiFi Really Have No GPS???

The tech specs page shows no GPS on the Wifi model, is this true? If so that is absolutely ridiculous, why would they leave out the GPS from the WiFi model???

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Posted on Mar 2, 2011 12:05 PM

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Q: Does iPad 2 WiFi Really Have No GPS???

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  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Mar 8, 2012 5:09 PM in response to garyconrad
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    Mar 8, 2012 5:09 PM in response to garyconrad

    No. You just don't activate the 3G on the iPad. The GPS will still work.

  • by garyconrad,

    garyconrad garyconrad Mar 12, 2012 5:13 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Mar 12, 2012 5:13 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Found out yesterday apple said GPS in real time would like work with wifi.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 12, 2012 8:51 PM in response to garyconrad
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    Mar 12, 2012 8:51 PM in response to garyconrad

    "Found out yesterday apple said GPS in real time would like work with wifi"

     

    What?

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Mar 12, 2012 9:57 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Mar 12, 2012 9:57 PM in response to Chris CA

    Chris CA wrote:

     

    "Found out yesterday apple said GPS in real time would like work with wifi"

     

    What?

     

    If you have an iPad with cell data capability, it has a GPS chip in it that works just fine regardless of whether you have a cellular or Wi-Fi data connection.

     

    A Wi-Fi-only iPad does not have a GPS chip.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Mar 13, 2012 4:09 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Mar 13, 2012 4:09 AM in response to William Kucharski

    Um, I think Chris is well aware of that.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 13, 2012 7:29 AM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Mar 13, 2012 7:29 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Um, I think Chris is well aware of that.

    Wait?!? There's no Flash on the iPad?

  • by BobTheFisherman,

    BobTheFisherman BobTheFisherman Mar 13, 2012 7:38 AM in response to garyconrad
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    Mar 13, 2012 7:38 AM in response to garyconrad

    garyconrad wrote:

     

    Found out yesterday apple said GPS in real time would like work with wifi.

    Gary, I think someone was pulling your leg. Sort of like telling you to go get the "sky hook" from the supply room. Rest assured, the wifi only iPad does not contain GPS hardware and therefore can not connect to the GPS satellite system. And the supply room does not have "sky hooks".

  • by richfromberkley,

    richfromberkley richfromberkley Mar 13, 2012 8:08 AM in response to BobTheFisherman
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    Mar 13, 2012 8:08 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

    Unless you have an external GPS unit attached via bluetooth like a Dual XGPS150 !!  Works great when the wifi connections are lost.

  • by Dah•veed,

    Dah•veed Dah•veed Mar 13, 2012 8:25 AM in response to Stasis88
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    Mar 13, 2012 8:25 AM in response to Stasis88

    I think that you lot misunderstand what garyconrad said. He is not saying that the Wi-Fi iPad has GPS, he is saying that for the iPad with assisted GPS, the assisting will work even when it just uses the Wi-Fi.

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Mar 13, 2012 8:26 AM in response to BobTheFisherman
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    Mar 13, 2012 8:26 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

     

    Additional elaboration:

     

    GPS signals are separate from and completely unrelated to both the Internet and the cellular telephone network.  GPS signals come directly from the GPS satellites.  They provide latitude and longitude information to GPS receivers.  Navigation software then takes that latitude/longitude info and converts it to land mass, roads, bridges, highways, buildings, etc.

     

    Most navigation software stores the maps right in the iPad/iPod/iPhone but a disadvantage is that the maps must be periodically updated (perhaps once every two years).  The Internet is not required to use the system but it is required to update the maps.

     

    Some navigation software gets the maps from the Internet and requires an Internet connection to function but an advantage is that the maps are always up-to-date.

     

    The WiFi+3G iPad and the iPhone both have a GPS receiver.  The WiFi-only iPad and the iPod do not and these devices require an accessory.

     

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Mar 13, 2012 8:27 AM in response to richfromberkley
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    Mar 13, 2012 8:27 AM in response to richfromberkley

    richfromberkley wrote:

     

    Unless you have an external GPS unit attached via bluetooth like a Dual XGPS150 !!  Works great when the wifi connections are lost.

    It should also work just fine when you do have WiFi.  In fact, the location info from the GPS device should override that from WiFi as it is more accurate.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 13, 2012 8:44 AM in response to richfromberkley
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    Mar 13, 2012 8:44 AM in response to richfromberkley

    richfromberkley wrote:

     

    Unless you have an external GPS unit attached via bluetooth like a Dual XGPS150 !!  Works great when the wifi connections are lost.

    Note that there are two things going on.

    Location data - The iPad only wifi gets location data ONLY from wifi routers (and external BT receivers if used). iPad with 3G will get location from GPS satellites, cell towers (assisted = A in A-GPS) and wifi.

    Map data - In order to use the location data in a map, the map data must be loaded. Some apps will download the is data and can be used with no internet/data connection. This is good for wifi only iPads with an external BT receiver and iPads with 3G (which have GPS) but no data connection.

  • by skydogzz,

    skydogzz skydogzz Mar 19, 2012 12:03 PM in response to Stasis88
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    Mar 19, 2012 12:03 PM in response to Stasis88

    I have an Ipad 2 wifi only, I dont know how, but it DOES know my approx location when I go to mapping, and Aero maps.

    It is not too accurate, about within 200' or so from my location shown on the satelite map......

     

    Message was edited by: skydogzz

  • by tonefox,

    tonefox tonefox Mar 19, 2012 12:11 PM in response to skydogzz
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    Mar 19, 2012 12:11 PM in response to skydogzz

    Pleae read the 251 posts prior to yours. It really does not need further explanation.

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Mar 19, 2012 12:17 PM in response to skydogzz
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    Mar 19, 2012 12:17 PM in response to skydogzz

    skydogzz wrote:

     

    It is not too accurate, about within 200' or so from my location shown on the satelite map...

    That, in itself, is evidence that it does not have GPS.

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