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MacKeeper

Has anyone tried the third party system utility, MacKeeper? If so, I am just looking for some feedback on what they think about it.

Thanks,

Mac

Macbook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.6.6), 2.93 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3

Posted on Mar 13, 2011 6:52 AM

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Mar 13, 2011 11:46 AM in response to macorin

macorin --

Really, there's not a lot to do. The major thing that would slow your Mac down would be loading on and keeping huge video, music, or photo editing files. Or if you decide to load on anything Peer-2-Peer, and download questionable apps or files.

I think this article from Macworld might help you understand better:
http://www.macworld.com/article/133684/2008/06/maintenance_intro.html

Mar 13, 2011 6:37 PM in response to TildeBee

Thanks Bee and Linc,

This is why I posted here - to get some useful feedback from more experienced users.

I'm not necessarily looking to delete anything. The space on my hard drive is primarily being used by three things - My iTunes library, images and video. I've done some shifting to get some of this content onto external drives and I am still in the process of configuring my backup plan. I use time machine with a time capsule, two 1 TB connected FW drives for backup and storage and CrashPlan for offsite backup.

I was just looking to clean out any junk that might be cluttering my system and to optimize my performance. To be honest, it is tough to know what you can delete and what you can't or shouldn't. Still, doing nothing because of that wasn't an option. For example, I don't really know why I need to keep a copy of every email and attachment in my home -> library -> mail. This seems like a waste of space and redundant. Still, I'm not sure whether or not I can or should delete stuff like that.

This is a classic case of you don't know what you don't know. I was simply exploring different software options out there that could help aid an unsophisticated user. I posted here to get some feedback - hopefully from an array of users - sophisticated and unsophisticated.

If that is "suckerware", so be it. I was simply exploring it as an option. I didn't buy it.

Thanks for the responses.

Mac

Mar 13, 2011 6:52 PM in response to macorin

+I was just looking to clean out any junk that might be cluttering my system and to optimize my performance.+

Windows users take a while to get used to the idea that the Mac OS has no registry to get cluttered with junk. "Registry cleaners" and such have no Mac equivalents.

The sort of junk that really will clutter up your system and reduce performance is mainly third-party kernel extensions, especially the ones installed by "anti-virus" software. Stay away from that and you'll be fine.

Mar 13, 2011 7:37 PM in response to Linc Davis

Linc,

Thanks again for the response. I'm not sure why you are assuming I am a Windows user/convert. I actually despise Windows and have been using Macs solely for over 10 years. They have been so easy to use and maintenance free that I never really had to learn what things like kernel extensions are. I've never even installed an anti-virus application on any of my Macs before.

Again, the reason I was inquiring about this is because as my hard drive has filled up, my computer's performance has gotten worse. I have since moved large content to an external drive in order to free up disk space. This hasn't really solved the issue of things working slowly, hangs and spinning beach balls. At first I thought I needed to perhaps defrag my disk, but Mac OSX works hard to avoid fragmentation. I thought I'd look to see what is out there and I came up MacKeeper. This is when I posted in order to get some feedback.

Mac

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Mar 13, 2011 7:59 PM in response to macorin

Hey macorin,

If your computer is slowing down, here are the things you need to consider:

1) Age of the computer. The older & more used a computer is, the higher the likelihood is that the hard drive is failing. Hard drives tend to last 3~5 years, though they can survive longer.

2) Amount of RAM. If you're trying to run too many applications & your computer doesn't have enough RAM, you'll definitely see slowdowns. The minimum for Snow Leopard is 1GB. Most users here will recommend no less than 2GB, and to max out your RAM if at all possible.

3) Lack of hard drive space. The general recommendation is 15% of your drive should be free space. If you pair a lack of free space with a lack of RAM, your computer will really be hurting.

4) Directory corruption. If you've had to force your computer to power off, or if it's abruptly powering off on its own, the directory may become corrupt, and this will slow down the computer. You can use your install discs to repair the hard drive in most cases.

If you'd like me to provide instructions for checking the health of your hard drive, where to get a RAM upgrade & checking for directory corruption, let me know!

~Lyssa

Mar 13, 2011 10:03 PM in response to Lyssa

Lyssa,

Excellent post. My computer isn't old. It is a late 2009 17" Macbook Pro. I could certainly max out the RAM and have thought about doing that. Currently I have 4GB, but I thought about getting the upgrade to 8GB. I could also decide to upgrade the hard disk to 500 GB from the 320 that I currently have, or even move to an SSD, but that is expensive. I've researched RAM, etc and thought that OWC had some pretty good deals. I'm always a bit weary about RAM because I feel like you never know what you are actually buying. The last time I upgraded my RAM was on my PowerMac G4. I more than doubled it and didn't see any increase in performance. Since then, I've been a bit cautious when it comes to RAM upgrades. Sure you could go cheap, but then what are you really getting.

I doubt my hard drive directory has been corrupted. To be honest, my computer really isn't running all that badly. I could certainly live with it and survive. I was just looking for ways to maximize performance and to be certain that I was doing everything I could to do this.

Perhaps you could give me some instructions for checking the health of my hard drive. If you have some thoughts and/or advice on RAM, I'd be more than happy to hear about it too.

I've thought about partitioning my drives in the past, but I don't really understand enough about that to take the plunge.

Thanks for your well written and thoughtful contribution.

Mac

Mar 14, 2011 8:49 AM in response to macorin

Hey Mac,

Some questions for you to consider about how your computer is behaving:

1) How much time does it take for the computer to start up, shut down, and sleep?
2) How much time does it take to open an application? Most applications should be ready within a few seconds, though larger stuff (such as the Adobe Suite) will take longer. Microsoft Office tends to open slowly as well.

And some health suggestions for your computer:
1) SMART Utility will check the physical health of the drive. Anything other than "Passed" means your hard drive is failing and needs to be replaced: http://www.volitans-software.com/smart_utility.php

2) Take a look at Activity Monitor (it's in Applications>Utilities). Click on the *System Memory* tab and look at the pie there, and also look at the information on the left-hand side. Also look at the line labeled Pageouts . It would be best if you restart your computer & then monitor the RAM usage on your computer. If you are seeing a high number of pageouts after going about your activities for the day, you definitely need more RAM. If not, you don't need it, but more RAM is almost always better.

3) Check for directory corruption. Again, this won't hurt anything and gives you the assurance that your computer is in good condition. Open Disk Utility (Applications>Utilities), click on *Macintosh HD* in the upper left-hand corner, then click the *Verify Disk* button. On my machine, Disk Utility tends to look like it's not responding, so my advice would be to click the button, then leave your computer alone for about 5 minutes (go have some coffee!) or, at the very least, leave the Disk Utility window alone.

Once the verify is complete, you should see "The volume Macintosh HD appears to be OK" in green text. If not, please post what Disk Utility is unable to repair & we'll let you know how to proceed.

As for where/how to get more RAM, I personally buy RAM made by Crucial. However, many users (including myself) will suggest OWC as an excellent alternative. I'm told(as I have no direct experience myself) that they have great customer service and offer lifetime warranties on many of their products.

You don't need to partition your drive unless you're planning to install a second operating system. Partitioning the drive really doesn't offer much benefit for OS X. In some cases, partitioning the drive may slow the computer down!

Sorry for being long-winded (again!), but hopefully some of this will help!

~Lyssa

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