Is this possible? live vocal loops, guitar loops/effects.

Pianafiddle wrote:
then create a second (slave) loop that is in sync and a multiple of the master loop. I can then also create a third loop (and even a fourth loop) that I can toggle between. (Master is always running, and can be stacked upon if I so desire, fyi.) So, how do I do THAT in Mainstage?

An update. After upgrading to MS 2.2.1 and getting a faster Mac, things are running stable enough to give MainStage a second chance.

However, I am still not able to use Loopback as described by Pianafiddle in this thread (master - slave looping, as done by a Boomerang or Boss hardware pedal). If I try to set the first instance of Loopback to dictate the clock, it is not time reliably. And, If I try to Group instances of Loopback, I am stuck with all of them being the same length, so I cannot do a traditional "Master/Slave" style of live looping.

If someone has this figured out (Loopback live looping on-the-fly, not looping to a metronome or drum track), please let us know. Otherwise, Mobius is working very well.

Have you actually tried doing this and succeeded? I am also unable to get a setup syncing multiple loops in a slave-master relationship (and not tied to a metronome or drumtradk) with any sort of usable timing. Spent a couple of hours with it today, read everything online, watched every youtube video, read the MS documentation, threw I Ching, chanted, prayed....

dingdangdawg wrote:

Have you actually tried doing this and succeeded? I am also unable to get a setup syncing multiple loops in a slave-master relationship (and not tied to a metronome or drumtradk) with any sort of usable timing.

Hi

Generally, yes.

What is it that you need, and what have you tried?

CCT

Thanks. Well, to reiterate,I do not want to be tied down to a metronome or a clock, but need to be able to sync multiple loops together. So I need a "Master" loop, and "Slave" loop(s). For example, it the Master is one measure long, a Slave loop could be one measure long, or any multiple of one measure, depending on when you stop recording and "close" the Slave loop. If you then start the Slave loop later, it will always be synched up with the Master. This is the way my hardware loopers (Boss, Boomerang III, etc) work.

But with Loopback, things are OK until I try to get two (or more) instances of Loopback to synch up and behave. It seems there is no concept of "master" and "slave" looping with Loopback, and that I can only "slave" loops to the Concert Tempo. Well .... If I set up my first instance of Loopback to "Set Concert Tempo to First Take" then the timing of the loop gets sloppy, especially if am trying to do precise looping. When this approach is used, I can get subsequent instances of LoopBack to synch to the first loop, but the inaccuracies of timing the first loop make this method unusable for accurate timing (at least the way I have it set up!)

There are ways to "Group" Loopback instances, and I have also played around with this quite a bit, but this just seems to set the loop lengths the same for all loops in the Group, and they respond simultaneously to footswitch commands, and it doesn't seem to be useful for live looping if you want your loop lengths to differ in multiples of the Master loop length.

CCT, I certainly could be missing something; there are many parameter variations that could be selected in each Loopback instance (where the first is the "master" and the second is the "slave" loop). I have tried too many of them to remember or list, but I thought I tried all of the logical ones after reading through the docs and experimenting. If you know of some things to try with specific parameter settings, I will certainly put some more time in on it, cause I would love to have it working for live performance!