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kernel_task consumes a lot of RAM in early 2011 MBP, sometimes Finder too

Hi,

My old MBP3,1 (late 2007, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo) worked quite well with 4 GB of RAM, even after weeks without restarting. In fact, I used all available RAM only on some larger analyses using R, which loads the entire dataset in memory. To be able to run these few analyses faster on my new machine (early 2011 MBP), I bought the 8 GB RAM option.

In Activity Monitor, I noticed something strange. Whereas my old MBP shows kernel_taks as using between 100 and 200 MB of RAM, the new MBP uses about 550 MB just after the machine started up and often shows over 600 after a few hours or days of use. A one year old iMac, again Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of RAM, gives a kernel_task memory usage below 200 MB after weeks of use.

I've not been able to find what kernel_task does. Is this amount (around 600 MB, but it has gone up to 800) normal? Is it managiing the additional number of cores that requires this behind the scenes amount of RAM?

Anyway, I now quite often have more than 4 GB of RAM in use even when I have only a few applications running (not even including R!), which surprises me.

Also today, after moving a lot of files back and forth between an external drive and the new MBP, after emptying the garbage can that contained a hefty number of files and doing a first Time Machine backup, the Finder ended up using 2,4 GB of RAM according to Activity Monitor. I have never seen anything like this (although I admit not having Activity Monitor on all the time). Even after the backup was finished and the external drive disconnected (in fact the machine was left idling for a few hours) cpu usage was down to nearly zero, the Finder kept its 2.4 GB of RAM. I restarted and the new RAM usage for the Finder was 26 MB. I have a screen shot showing the 2.4 GB, but I could not find a way to attach it to this message. I can send it by email on request. I don't think this Finder behavior was normal.

Somewhat worried,

Denis

MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz i7, 8 GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Mar 16, 2011 12:04 AM

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Jul 29, 2011 2:17 PM in response to eww

Telling us that isn't helping anyone. We're looking for a solution, so if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't say it. Seriously, this entire thread the majority of your posts have been "stop whining guys, os x is perfect." Obviously most of the people in this thread disagree.

Jul 29, 2011 7:14 PM in response to eww

What ever happened to "As you suggest, I'll just go away and let you wait to hear back from Apple."?


Arguing with you is counterproductive, as arguing with fanboys tends to be. Please leave us to find a solution rather than repeatedly assure us everything is OK. If everything was OK, we wouldn't be "whining" in this thread.

Jul 30, 2011 7:55 AM in response to wyager

Wyager


You stated a few days ago what I said about Macs allocating RAM to be BS. Perhaps what I meant was the OS itself. Does the OS have anything to do with the way RAM is allocated? I agree it seems unusual that the kernel task should be eating so much RAM. Wyager I found this thread on the Apple forums though not directly related to this some knowledgeable people talk about memory usage. If you don't find it insightful please don't patronize me by saying it is bulls**t as well. Another thing I want to suggest. If you want a definitive answer to this thread start another thread and put Attention Kappy in the title followed by the issue. Kappy is the most knowledgeable person I've ever encountered on these forums. He's forgotten more than any of us combined in this thread know.


Joseph


Post Script: Wyager don't be arrogant, and don't patronize others. That's not what these forums are for. Everyone here is on a different level as far as knowledge goes. We're all here to learn and try to help eachother. I say this to you in kindness.

Jul 30, 2011 5:17 PM in response to MacJoseph

Hmph. A helpful answer, yes, although a somewhat condescending one, too. I don't think noticing what appears to be abnormal RAM usage in comaprison with other machines, and wondering what might be causing it, makes one a "pseudo-techie" who should be unilaterally ignored. But anyway, I'm glad we've managed to get some sort of resolution on this issue, such as it is.

Jul 30, 2011 7:25 PM in response to Gerard Klein

Gerald


The more RAM you put in a machine the more it is going to use. I know that probably doesn't make sense, but I know it to be true. I have 8GB of RAM and Lion is consuming almost 3GB with FF running and some other programs running in the backgorund. But it is not affecting system performance. I always have a little over 5GB free. I honestly don't think you're ever going to find a solution to the kernel task memroy usage. I Googled this and it's been an issue for people for a very long time. Google for yourself and see. I know noone wants to hear this, but adding more RAM makes this a non-issue.


Joseph

Jul 30, 2011 8:12 PM in response to thawking78

@thawking78

See, I think we may have been wrong about that... I believe the GPU takes up "wired" RAM, but it is not part of kernel_task. Kernel_task plus 384 megabytes (used by the graphics card) is just short of my wired memory. Same thing on my friend's macbook, but of course his kernel_task only uses 140 megs.


So, the integrated graphics chipset seems to take up "wired" RAM, but is NOT part of kernel_task.

Jul 31, 2011 5:02 AM in response to wyager

So, the integrated graphics chipset seems to take up "wired" RAM, but is NOT part of kernel_task.


If the caption below your Activity Monitor memory pie chart indicates a total of less than the full amount of RAM that is installed in your machine (e.g., in my case, it shows 3.75 GB instead of the 4GB that is installed), the difference is the RAM allocated to the integrated GPU. So that amount is excluded from all four RAM categories — active, inactive, wired and free — and not included in any of them.

kernel_task consumes a lot of RAM in early 2011 MBP, sometimes Finder too

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