10 Replies Latest reply: Feb 24, 2014 8:52 PM by pmedia Branched to a new discussion.
sfo123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
After reading lots of threads about CampTune, I thought I would post my experience in case anyone else tries it.

When I discovered I couldn't increase the size of my BC partition without deleting and reinstalling it, I was pretty desperate to try anything that would not create the days of work involved. I bought CampTune on the Paragon site.

In summary, it worked ... but not smoothly at all. In the end, it was well worth the $20 but there were headaches along the way.


So, in case anyone else has the same challenges, here's my $0.02:

- after purchase, product key didnt work but Paragon corrected after 24 hours waiting

- CampTune requires that you burn a cd then boot from that cd. Easy enough.

- CampTune includes a nifty little backup tool for the paranoid folks like myself. (I have read lots of unfortunate stories from people that didnt backup before using CampTune so back it up and save yourself.)

- First try to resize the partition generated a Disk i/o error. So, I defrag'ed in XP and tried again.

- second try generated a 'cross-linked files' error. In Mac OS disk utility partition tab, I stretched the Mac partition to include all of the space between the 2 partitions. (there was some evidence from postings online that this is a problem) Then, in Mac OS disk utility, I ran repair disk. In XP, I ran chkdsk /r.

- third time was a charm! Worked perfectly and both partitions are now humming away nicely.

Hope this saves someone the headaches I had!

cheers!

macbook, Windows XP
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,380 points)
    Thanks -

    Two thoughts I'd ask:

    Did you modify or change the partitions yourself, to create the 'gap' between partitions? or was that the result of first attempt to use CampTune?

    CampTune can also be used to take the place of Boot Camp Assistant; create an NTFS partition directly (unlike BCA which uses FAT32);

    Paragon has a very reliable feature "Clone OS to SSD" for Windows that works on any type of hard drive (great for moving and resizing partition size to another hard drive);

    I've seen that error from Windows 7's shared libraries or hard coded links used to relocate directories, mount points, folders (mount a drive in an empty folder) or move a folder to another designated location.

    I think a chkdsk should always be done before running, along with sfc /scannow (system file checker) "just in case."

    http://www.paragon-software.com/home/camptune/
  • sfo123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for the additional info.

    I had not modified the partition after creating them originally so I think the gap was a result of the 1st CampTune attempt.

    I agree - I should have done all of those steps before attempting to resize the partition but I was hoping it would 'magically' work without having any extra effort on my part.
  • iMicLes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Important !

     

    You can, with Camp Tune, increase your Boot Camp partition size and down-size your Mac partition, as long as you remember to re-format your Windows in NTFS.

     

    HOW (to format your Windows partition from FAT32 to NTFS) : It's a simple command line in Windows, though it requires a bit of patience, including an automatic reboot or two to complete the process. In Windows, run the command "convert c: /fs:ntfs" without the quotation marks and change c to another drive if needed..

     

    I am doing that myself : it went fine (i.e. Camp Tune), but I am restarting the process as my Windows was in FAT32 prior to running Camp Tune.

     

    Remember to make a back-up of your Mac (Time Machine) and of your Windows partition (Camp Tune).

     

    Cheers

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,380 points)

    Going from FAT to NTFS is not just "resizing" though.

     

    Also, I'd be on egg shells with Lion and Recovery partition present; or if using FileVault2.

     

    We have been recommending CampTune, for the last year at least....

  • iMicLes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My message explains that you MUST be in NTFS format prior to trying to inscrease your partition beyond the default 32 GB.

     

    I am informed (I hope it is true), that with Mac OS 10.6 and beyond, Boot Camp now allows to create bigger partitions in NTFS. With Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5, Boot Camp only creates a 32 GB FAT32 partition, hence the need for CampTune.

     

    Thank you.

  • iMicLes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    EDIT - Important :

     

    To feel socially responsible, I must warn that using CampTune on an existing Windows installation, that you converted from FAT32 to NTFS, is a very messy and painful process, as file permissions get screwed around.  I just spent about two days running disk repairs (the CHKDSK tool, which can take over 5 hours!), fixing my user profile in safe-mode boot, fixing permissions, and so on. Therefore, I really recommend to anyone to just install a fresh Windows with CampTune (if you are using Mac OS 10.4 or 10.5) or with the new BootCamp system by upgrading to Mac OS 10.6 (only cost 30$ surprisingly [I am told, in MacOS 10.6, BootCamp can now create partitions in NTFS larger than 32GB. I have not seen it for myself.]).

     

    nb: Moreover, if with CampTune you try restoring a Windows back-up on a new partition, you can have very bad surprises... (as above or worse)  I was hoping CampTune would avoid these pits and traps, but it does not.

  • Jay Blongz Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Good post.  I'm considering Camptune for Windows 8 on my rMBP in case I run out of space.

  • davige49 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've used CampTuneX and IMHO is disappointing. It took 4 tries before my BC partition would resize. After resize it is very slow and buggy in both Parallels and native boot Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. I'm considering blowing out BC partition and starting over with a clean install. CampTune support wasn't very helpful.

  • mrspez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Since the original post is from 2011, I though I would offer the experience I had recently with Camptune.

     

    CONTEXT: Yesterday, I bought a new MacBook Pro (Retina, 13").  I used Bootcamp to create a partition (formatted NTFS - that was the only choice) and installed Windows 7 professional.  All good.

     

    When I made the bootcamp partition I split my drive 50/50 (i.e. 250GB for the Mac and Windows/Bootcamp partitions).  Within hours I had second thoughts because I will use this machine primarily as a Windows machine. I felt I had made a mistake to not make my Bootcamp partition larger.

     

    Because I had just bought the computer (and had only invested a day of my time) I figured that I would bit the bullet and go throught the process of killing my Bootcamp partition, recreating it, reinstalling Windows, etc. before going futher down the path of getting my machine "all set up" and ready to use.

     

    I did some searching online before beginning the process and I'm so glad I did.  I just installed CampTune X (through a digital download), installed the product, and changed my partition size.  The whole process (front to back) took about 15 minutes.

     

    I realize that I might be a slightly different situtation than most with a new/clean machine already formatted to NTFS.  I have seen others have problems due to FAT partitions and matching versions of Mac OS with a compatible version of Camptune.  But I have to say that my experience was flawless and the $19.99 was TOTALLY worth it.

  • pmedia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I will second mrspez.  Bought a MBP 15" retina recently and bootcamped a win7 64 bit into a 60 gb partition.  When finished, it was tight with only 10 gb free space. I need the win partition to run some scientific equipment and 10gb would be about 2 weeks of data. 

     

    I turned off FileVault (30 min to decrypt) time machine backed up my Maverics partition (~45 minutes on gigabit Ethernet to my NAS) backed up windows with backup assistant (about 1/2 hr on same Ethernet to same NAS) then used camp tune to resize the partitions.  That took about 15 minutes. 

     

    So all in all camp tune saved me about 2 hrs from having to re-wipe the partitions and restore from backups. $10 an hour for my time?  Thats the new minimum wage.  Worth it.