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  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    stupid question, but I found myself wondering if Rosetta was already on my MBP, where do you look? Is it an app in the Applications folder or Utilitites folder?
  • Kurt Lang Level 8 Level 8 (35,435 points)
    Are you sure you have at least one Power PC app that requires Rosetta installed on your Mac?


    Yes, there are several. There's probably a difference in our disks. For being part of the Snow Leopard beta, testers received a free copy of SL. But, it's not a retail disk. It's the last beta DVD we received, which has the same build as the retail copy of 10.6.0. I can only guess there are differences in the installer scripts.
  • Kurt Lang Level 8 Level 8 (35,435 points)
    Rosetta is just a few small files buried on the hard drive. If you run an app that has PowerPC code only and it launches without question, then Rosetta is already installed. Otherwise, the OS will tell you it needs to install Rosetta before it can run the app.

    It's all automatic. The first time you run a PPC app after a startup or restart, Rosetta is loaded first, and then the app. After you close the app, Rosetta remains active for the rest of that session.
  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    Thanks Kurt. I don't run any PPC apps that I know of (nor do I have any installed unless MS Office 2008 put them in). Can you not look in system profiler, apps, or utilities to see if it is installed (assuming it's an app of somekind..and honestly, I don't know).
  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    and now that I said that, I opened System Profiler, went to the Applications, and looked at the "kind" column. The only three "PowerPC" that I see are "Microsoft Query," "Open XML for Charts" and "Open XML for Excel" that must come from the Office 2008 Install. As far as I know, I have never "used" these.

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  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    I am wondering if we see a "new" version of the 10.6.7 updater or just an small update file to correct this problem, or both?
    If a "new"combo updater comes out, it would probably best to use that to update as it seems more succesful on these forums using those instead of the deltas
  • Kurt Lang Level 8 Level 8 (35,435 points)
    The only three "PowerPC" that I see are "Microsoft Query," "Open XML for Charts" and "Open XML for Excel" that must come from the Office 2008 Install. As far as I know, I have never "used" these.


    If you were to use them, you'd notice a slight lag on first use since Rosetta would have to load first. After that, you really won't be able to tell the difference in speed between native Intel and translated code. Not on smaller apps anyway. You can definitely tell the difference if you have something like Photoshop CS4 set to run in Rosetta rather than native Intel.

    The files for Rosetta installed by OS X are here:

    /private/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Rosetta.bom
    /private/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Rosetta.plist
    /private/var/db/dyld/dyldshared_cacherosetta
    /private/var/db/dyld/dyldshared_cacherosetta.map
    /usr/libexec/oah/RosettaNonGrata
    /private/var/db/RosettaVersion.plist
    /usr/libexec/oah/translate

    They take up all of 200 MB of space total.

    I am wondering if we see a "new" version of the 10.6.7 updater or just an small update file to correct this problem, or both?


    Couldn't say. My guess would be a replacement of 10.6.7. Apple's done that before where they pulled an update and gave the corrected file the same number. Doing a get info on the new file showed the name as (example) 10.6.3a.
  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    I did a default install originally, except I went back and added QT 7 (since I have a Pro code), so I am pretty sure I didn't select it, nor do I think it installs as a norm.
  • Kurt Lang Level 8 Level 8 (35,435 points)
    Correct. Rosetta does not install by default. You can always add it later by launching the Optional Software package on the SL disk and selecting only Rosetta. Or, if a message pops up when you launch an app that needs it, you can just say OK, and OS X will download and install it. It's small, so it only takes a couple of minutes.
  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    thanks, I have the dvd's that came with my MBP, which is 10.6.3 version on them. So I assume that is where I could also go. (I have a retail box of 10.6.3 as well, but not sure it starts up the Mid 2010 MBP). I assume I went to either the SL 10.6.0 dvd or the MBP install dvds to get QT7. I just don't remember which one.
  • ianstudio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have a MacPro and a MacBook... both have been upgraded to 10.6.7. The issue only happens on my MacPro.. with several fonts.. the one font family I noticed it with first is Officina. I didn't try any repair on my MacBook since there is no issue whatsoever on the MacBook (same exact fonts on it). So the issue is related to 10.6.7 but is not a pervasive bug.. it must need other corollaries to act up..

    On the McPro I tried FontDoctor and then checking my FontAgent library, deleted the font caches with Onyx (I had tried MainMen previously to no avail). Repaired the Disk permissions. Now when I activate Officina which seems fine in FontAgent it does not even appear at all in my software menu.. be it InDesign or Bean or any software.. so in a sense things got worse.

    I'm freaking out about reverting to 10.6.6 because I know all the various tweaking I'll encounter having done this in the past.. I cannot even see the activated PS version (non OTF) of Officina either in my applications menus.All of this is very weird.
  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    I would hope that Apple is aware of this issue and might be putting out a kbase at least confirming that they know of the issue and are working on a fix...
  • Kaleb Wyman Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    This is totally unacceptable... Apple needs to fix this problem, they can't just go and break the ability to display .OTF fonts and expect the world to just work around it.
  • Rob Strat Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    After updating OSX 10.6.7 from 10.6.6 I encountered serious font problems.
    CS applications quit after opening, especially CS5 applications.

    I found that opening Font Book some fonts are labeled with the yellow triangle.
    When I select these and choose resolve conflicts, the problems seem to disappear.
    I do this before opening any applications.
    I have also installed FontAgent Pro.

    All has worked flawlessly over the past years and I never experienced any problems after updating OSX.
  • Tyrexionibus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    WHAT THE HECK !!!!!

    Same problem here.

    LOTS of fonts, like my favorite "Myriad Pro" (THE ONE USED BY APPLE !!!!) are displaying correctly but printing like something Japanese.

    This is my "font status":

    Under Mac OS X 10.6.7

    1) Lots of duplicated fonts - like Courier New, Arial or Times New Roman. They DON'T (DON'T!!) seem to cause any issue;
    2) Lots of third-party fonts.

    PLEASE READ this article:

    http://fontfeed.com/archives/mac-os-x-10-6-7-update-causes-problems-with-opentyp e-fonts/

    ... and let us know if there is any fix. I will try to:

    1) Clear the font cache using OnyX;
    2) Validate fonts;
    3) Remove duplicated fonts

    and report back here.

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