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Q: Font problems after 10.6.7

I'm getting lots of strange behaviour relating to fonts since updating to 10.6.7. This is all in things that used to work perfectly.
PostScript output causes errors in Distiller (problems in font definitions); and manipulating PDF objects can cause embedded fonts to become .... unembedded.

As I understand it, there were lots of security fixes to font handling in the update, but it seems to have caused loads of trouble.

The developers for an app I use, Imposition Wizard, have confirmed that things aren't working as they are supposed to and have filed bug reports with Apple.

However, as I do a lot of work with PostScript and PDFs, I will have to reinstall the OS to 10.6.6.

iMac 2006 2Ghz, Mac OS X (10.6.7), MacBook 2008

Posted on Mar 22, 2011 3:07 PM

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  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Mar 31, 2011 5:38 AM in response to Kaleb Wyman
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    Mar 31, 2011 5:38 AM in response to Kaleb Wyman
    Assuming these are all Apple's problems to fix, it can't very well do so without detailed feedback from users experiencing them. It should be clear from this & several other threads that not everybody is seeing the same behavior so referring to it simply as "this problem" is not of much help.

    Also please remember that this is a user-to-user forum & that there is no guarantee that anything you post here will be forwarded to the appropriate department at Apple. To make sure your feedback gets to the appropriate department, use the form at http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html, making sure that you select the right "Feedback Type" (typically bug report), supply the other info it requests, & use the comment area for the details.
  • by powerbook1701,

    powerbook1701 powerbook1701 Mar 31, 2011 5:40 AM in response to R C-R
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    Mar 31, 2011 5:40 AM in response to R C-R
    well, since Apple just addressed the whole MacBook Air and iTunes freezing issue, one would hope a fix for this is just around the corner.

    Also, what is the Myriad Pro font? Is that a preinstalled font by SL?
  • by SS_MedPhoto,

    SS_MedPhoto SS_MedPhoto Mar 31, 2011 5:54 AM in response to powerbook1701
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    Mar 31, 2011 5:54 AM in response to powerbook1701
    Also, what is the Myriad Pro font? Is that a preinstalled font by SL?


    No, it is not pre-installed. It is a commonly used Adobe font, which has been packaged with various CS products over the years as part of the registration free gift or alternatively that has been bought from Adobe.

    see http://store2.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-UK&event=displayF ontPackage&code=1706
  • by julespanopoulos,

    julespanopoulos julespanopoulos Mar 31, 2011 10:25 AM in response to Steve Werner
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    Mar 31, 2011 10:25 AM in response to Steve Werner
    I'm an IT Manager at a design firm and the 10.6.7 update is causing havoc. Is there a workaround? Our account managers use Adobe Pro 9.2 to create and edit Microsoft office doc(x)s converted to pdf's.
    Our templates use open type fonts (branding, replacing font not an option). Rolling back to 10.6.6 is killer unless there's a time machine backup. Anyone?
  • by James Shea1,

    James Shea1 James Shea1 Mar 31, 2011 10:39 AM in response to julespanopoulos
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    Mar 31, 2011 10:39 AM in response to julespanopoulos
    I did not find the process of downgrading to OS 10.6.6 to be difficult or especially time consuming. Install 10.6 from the Snow Leopard installation disc and then run the 10.6.6 combo updater that is available from Apple's web site.
  • by Tyrexionibus,

    Tyrexionibus Tyrexionibus Mar 31, 2011 10:55 AM in response to powerbook1701
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    Mar 31, 2011 10:55 AM in response to powerbook1701
    powerbook1701 wrote:
    well, since Apple just addressed the whole MacBook Air and iTunes freezing issue, one would hope a fix for this is just around the corner.

    Also, what is the Myriad Pro font? Is that a preinstalled font by SL?


    I wonder when someone asks me what's the Myriad Pro font

    Adobe's Myriad Pro (that's the full name) is the font that Apple use in many products: for example, if you get an iPod or an iPhone and analyze what font is used to write "iPhone" or "iPod" in the back... well, that's Myriad Pro.

    So, it's very curious to see that even this font gets messed up with SL 10.6.7 .

    I have feedbacked this issue to Apple, hoping that they will fix it soon.

    === PLEASE NOTE: UPDATE ===

    Pages, in my machine, IS NOT affected by the issue: I have printed a document written in Myriad, Helvetica Neue and Courier New some minutes ago with BEST results: ALL, I say ALL, fonts are fully readable and don't get messed up.

    So, I would recommend using Apple's Pages. OpenOffice 3.2.1 and 3.3 don't work for me.
  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Mar 31, 2011 12:28 PM in response to SS_MedPhoto
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    Mar 31, 2011 12:28 PM in response to SS_MedPhoto
    SS_MedPhoto wrote:
    It is a commonly used Adobe font …


    But as the link makes obvious, it is actually a font family of 10 related typefaces, each in its own file, & not all of them might be installed. A little less obvious, like many other fonts (OpenType or otherwise) over the years slightly different versions have been released, so not everyone that has the Myriad Pro font installed necessarily has the same sets of glyphs in those files.

    Much less obvious (at least to me), OpenType is not exactly the fully platform & application independent font technology I once thought it was. I don't know that much about it, but after wading through Adobe's OpenType® User Guide for Adobe® Fonts pdf file, I'm kind of amazed there are not more problems related to platform & application differences. Apparently, not even all of Adobe's apps handle OpenType exactly the same, & there are a fair number of quirks that can develop when a document is created on one platform & viewed on another unless special precautions are taken.

    I have no idea if this has anything to do with the 10.6.7 problems, though. Maybe some font expert can shed some light on this …. ?
  • by Gasuton,

    Gasuton Gasuton Mar 31, 2011 1:02 PM in response to curtsmedia
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    Mar 31, 2011 1:02 PM in response to curtsmedia
    As curtsmedia said, you just have to convert the fonts to ttf, because the problem is with otf fonts, there is no need to roll back your OS, just erase your Myriad Pro font and install the new one.

    I've converted my fonts and it's workin fine, if you like you can downlod the Myriad Pro family from here

    https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh1aklqaytqY3J2Wmc9PQ
  • by julespanopoulos,

    julespanopoulos julespanopoulos Mar 31, 2011 1:03 PM in response to James Shea1
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    Mar 31, 2011 1:03 PM in response to James Shea1
    The 1st machine I rolled back to 10.6.6. using the SL disc worked fine, it was the 2nd that got through phase 1 and then rebooted and hung. Yes, i repaired permissions before the rollback. I had to eject the disk and restore from TM. I got lucky though cause not all users are backed up with TM. This is crazy, Adobe or Apple needs to come up with a patch.
  • by miguelh,

    miguelh miguelh Apr 1, 2011 9:59 AM in response to R C-R
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    Apr 1, 2011 9:59 AM in response to R C-R
    OK, taking the advice, you go to the Apple feedback address provided to report a bug and amongst other things you are asked to enter your system: top of the list is 10.6.6 - no sign of 10.6.7!
    So do they think that nobody is using 10.6.7 now?
  • by Bert Sierra,

    Bert Sierra Bert Sierra Apr 1, 2011 1:19 PM in response to curtsmedia
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    Apr 1, 2011 1:19 PM in response to curtsmedia
    The online www.freefontconverter.com tool also cleared up the font problem for us. Our workflow is such that we have two OS X 10.6.7 systems with a LOT of OpenType fonts on them; perhaps about twenty different font families and over a hundred .otf files overall. But the majority of our systems only have one or two OpenType fonts on them -- HypatiaSansPro and OptimaNovaLTPro. I simply took these two fonts (eleven .otf files overall), ran them through www.freefontconverter.com to create TrueType (.ttf) equivalents in under ten minutes, and am replacing the OpenType versions with TrueType on our systems.

    We’re still figuring out how to best handle the two design systems with the large number of OpenType fonts, but if you have a small number of fonts giving you troubles, it seems much easier to convert them to TrueType than downgrade to OS X 10.6.7. If you have hundreds or thousands of OpenType fonts then of course the conversion may not be the best approach for you. Your milage may vary!!

    Note that in addition to the www.freefontconverter.com tool, a couple of other free online conversion tools are described at http://www.ehow.com/how6366601convert-type-true-type-font.html and also the TransType Pro conversion tool ($179 -- see http://www.fontlab.com/font-converter/transtype/) seems like it might be a useful product, but I have no experience with it.

    Hope this info helps!!
  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Apr 2, 2011 5:40 AM in response to miguelh
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    Apr 2, 2011 5:40 AM in response to miguelh
    It sometimes takes Apple a while to update web forms. For now, just note the correct system version in the comments section.

    Of course, you could also submit feedback about the missing OS version in the popup, too!
  • by jackpng,

    jackpng jackpng Apr 2, 2011 5:50 AM in response to C42D
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    Apr 2, 2011 5:50 AM in response to C42D
    Hi and Thanks for the link to OSX 10.6.6
    When I re-stall my original OS, do I simply restart the comp and insert CD and hold down "C" key to do the re-installation?
    Afterwhich how do I do the upgrade to OSX 10.6.6?
    Thanks again
    Jack
  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Apr 2, 2011 6:16 AM in response to jackpng
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    Apr 2, 2011 6:16 AM in response to jackpng
    When I re-stall my original OS, do I simply restart the comp and insert CD and hold down "C" key to do the re-installation?


    Yes.

    Afterwhich how do I do the upgrade to OSX 10.6.6?


    Just download and run the 10.6.6 Combo update.
  • by Hillcrest,

    Hillcrest Hillcrest Apr 2, 2011 7:33 PM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 2, 2011 7:33 PM in response to benwiggy
    A strange variant on the font problem:

    I loaded a Photoshop file I handn't used for a while. It wanted to substitute a font for 'Lucida Handwriting'.

    Font Book shows it to be present, but Linotype Fontexplorer says it's absent.

    I found a reasonable substitute on line - 'Chopinscript'. Downloaded and installed it, and...

    Font Book says it's present, Fontexplorer says not.

    Wrod sees it, but Photoshop doesn't.

    Er...

    I'm lost. Can anybody suggest a course of action?

    Thank you.
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