Q: Font problems after 10.6.7

KJK555 wrote:

 

+"Was surely hoping we'd see a true solution..."+

I've narrowed it down to one module:
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/A TS.framework

Replacing the ATS.framework package, with one from a working 10.6.6 installation, relieves the
problem and PDF's work again as expected.

I haven't had very much time to test it, but so far it seems to be stable. I also do not own
very many of the required varieties of software needed to conduct a thorough test.

If any of you try it, please post back with the results.

Kj

I checked my system and the module you refer to shows a last modified date of 01/01/10. I am running 10.6.7 and having the font issues. Wouldn't the modified or created dates for the model in question show a date that coincides with the 10.6.7 update?

While I've downloaded your fix, I'm hesitant to run it because I am not sure what it will do.

Wouldn't the modified or created dates for the model in question show a date that coincides with the 10.6.7 update?

Not necessarily. You can update a file within a folder, and the folder's date won't change. An application package is essentially just a folder. So pieces within the package can be updated without affecting the date of the package itself.

While I've downloaded your fix, I'm hesitant to run it because I am not sure what it will do.

I don't know what it does but I know it fixes the problem. I've installed the fix and all problems disappeared. Either one has to "downgrade" to 10.6.6 which can be quite an amount of work or one waits for the update by Apple or one risks to apply the fix by KJ. I did the latter and I do not regret that fix. I regret that I installed Apple's 10.6.7 "bugdate"....

etresoft wrote:

 

  Don't use Postscript fonts in 10.6.7! Just don't do it. I don't care how good Trajan Pro looks. Use a different #$%^#@# font.

Hey E tree,

Call it what you want but the above quote is just plain arrogant. I am a designer and we have tons of postscript fonts. Some are provided by clients in high pressure, fast turnaround situations. In fact *all* of my turnarounds are fast. Have you ever had to create a 25 page RFP in a few hours for major Brands?

All of which gets to a point. Your arrogant posts (and I have read enough of them) do not jibe with real-world logistics. From *our* point of view, Program X was working, we installed the usual "software update 10.6.7.." as we have for years, and suddenly program X is not working. Say what you want about Adobe, 20 year bugs etc, I don't care, because it was Apple's update that caused my workflow to STOP, and for me to suddenly scramble and DOWNgrade my OS over night on 3 machines, something I have not had to do in over 22 years (yes 22) of using macs.

For me the problem is Keynote, and using distiller to create the PDFS, because Keynote's default PDF creation is buggy and causes inconsistent color. I absolutely need distiller to work and it did not work on 3 machines the second I installed 10.6.7. And, as soon as I downgraded, it worked fine as before.

Making a statement like "dont use postscript fonts" to designers (who have never turned their back on Apple) who have thousands of fonts installed is silly. Get your head out of the clouds and come down to the real world trenches where the designers work — Designers who pay the salaries at Apple, even when Gil Amelio is the CEO.

Trajan Pro looks dope and I just used it last month. 

FIX IT APPLE !!!! 

@C42D.... quick question from an associate in the industry.

What software are using for Font Management ?

Font Book combined with manually managing my user set under username/ library/ fonts

I gave up on suitcase.

I use Fusion 13.2.2 and Type 1 PS fonts.

Updated to 10.6.7 and never had a problem.

And I have been on Mac since 1986. About 25 years now...

hahah! Nice.  But when you think about it, I am managing fonts with Apple's software, and using an Apple program (keynote) to generate a PS file...which suddenly won't distill, when it did before... 

My biggest disappointment is just that this has never even come close to happening... that's why when I see "there are updates available" I just automatically hit INSTALL... Its like a reflex.

And, sadly, my clients do not understand "not delivering"

In the end, I think a little more testing might have brought this up before it was released... but hey we had to get the iPad 2 and Verizon iPhone out first!

FIX IT APPLE!!!

i just made a dummy Keynote with PS1 and OT fonts installed using Fusion.

Created a from the Export.

Also did a PS file and converted using Apple own conversion NOT the Acrobat tools.

It all worked.

What are you using to distill with ?

I am in the UK but know the Verizon iPhone was a little icky to say the least !

Acrobat Distiller Pro X.

For the record my problem was less font related as much as workflow related.

Thanks for the tips but I will sadly sit on the sidelines until I see an official bug fix from apple. The Adobe post regarding font rendering in Flash was enough for me to realize its not worth the hassle.

Everything works fine now, rocking on 10.6.6.. I just feel for those who dont know how to downgrade and re-install or are afraid to.

BTW what is the Apple conversion you speak of?

ps saw your site... nice body of work!

C42D wrote: 

 

My biggest disappointment is just that this has never even come close to happening... that's why when I see "there are updates available" I just automatically hit INSTALL... Its like a reflex.

 

A lot of folks lost that reflex earlier when they were burned by the font problems created by 10.6.0, e.g.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2136944?threadID=2136944&start=0&tstart=0

and became more cautious, or at least started keeping clones of working OS versions so an update bug would not disrupt their work.

BTW what is the Apple conversion you speak of?

 

I let Preview render the file from PS to a PDF.

I also use Acrobat 9 Pro and all was good in that.

C42D wrote:

 

ps saw your site... nice body of work!

Thank you...

that preview trick is great... man you never stop learning. thanks!!

josephleebrown wrote:

 

BTW what is the Apple conversion you speak of?

 

I let Preview render the file from PS to a PDF.

 

I also use Acrobat 9 Pro and all was good in that.