14 Replies Latest reply: Mar 25, 2011 5:49 AM by Frank Caggiano
Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
The places bug is still there. Applying an exist place to image(s) creates a NEW location offset to the north east.

Now, since 3.1.2, scrolling is screwed up. Clicking either side of the scroll thumb in the a scroll bar always scrolls down. I all the years I've used a Mac, I've NEVER seen that happen before.

I'm still pretty new to Aperture, but I have to say some of these bugs are very surprising, and disappointing! "Pro Apps" shouldn't have such basic operational flaws!

Mac OS X (10.3.x)
  • 1. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)
    I don't have any problems with 3.1.2 and scrolling. Browser and Source list jump to the right position. (MacPro 10.6.6 30" + 23"). Do you see this problem in any other app?
  • 2. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    No, no scrolling problems anywhere else.

    It doesn't matter what view is displayed, clicking in the scrollbar area always behaves as though you're clicked below or to the right of the scroll-thumb. In order words, you can't scroll up page at a time.

    It's the strangest thing!
  • 3. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,820 points)
    I'm not seeing the scroll problem either.
  • 4. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    Slight correction: Clicking in the scroll bar does behave as expected, but holding the mouse down always scrolls down.
  • 5. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,920 points)
    What do you mean when you say "holding the mouse down always scrolls down"?
  • 6. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    Normally when you click and hold in the scroll bar, above the scroll thumb, the window rapidly scrolls up. Much like clicking and holding on the up arrow at the top of the scroll bar, only faster.

    A single click in the scrollbar, above the thumb, will scroll one page up, just as expect. However, hold the mouse down, and suddenly the scrolling behaves as though the mouse is below the scroll thumb.

    As I said, very strange!
  • 7. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,820 points)
    Rob-K wrote:

    A single click in the scrollbar, above the thumb, will scroll one page up, just as expect. However, hold the mouse down, and suddenly the scrolling behaves as though the mouse is below the scroll thumb.


    That behavior is user settable in the System Preferences under Appereance . Clicking in the scroll bar either jumps to the next page or jumps to the spot that's clicked. I've always set my to the later,easier to get through big files but I just tried it the other way, jump to next page, and I'm still not seeing a problem. A click above goes back one page a click below goes forward. Hold the mouse down and it continuously jumps one page at a time in the proper direction until the thumb meets the mouse pointer then it stops.

    I don't recall from your earlier posts did you state your hardware/software setup? I I'm using a magic mouse, iMac, 10.6.7, with magicprefs installed (but not set to do anything to weird)

    Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano
    You're not really running 10.3 are you? You should update your profile makes it easier for folks to help if we know the hardware/software you're using.

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  • 8. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    Appreciate your input, but I don't think you're understanding what the issue is. I understand the two scrolling behavior choices you mention, but that is not the issue at all.

    Put it this way, with a window scrolled down just enough to expose the scrollbar above the scrolling thumb, from the top of the scroll bar, I can make the window scroll all the way to the bottom. It is behaving perfectly opposite of what is normal. Scrolling behavior in the other direction, down, is completely normal.
  • 9. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)
    Ah yes, I see that behavior now if I click and hold. But as Frank notes, I see it related to Sys Prefs -- with my Appearance pref set to "Jump to the next page" but not if I have it set to "Jump to the spot that's clicked". (Which sounds different to what Frank is seeing.) Do you see this Rob-k?
  • 10. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,820 points)
    Rob-K wrote:
    Appreciate your input, but I don't think you're understanding what the issue is. I understand the two scrolling behavior choices you mention, but that is not the issue at all.

    Put it this way, with a window scrolled down just enough to expose the scrollbar above the scrolling thumb, from the top of the scroll bar, I can make the window scroll all the way to the bottom. It is behaving perfectly opposite of what is normal. Scrolling behavior in the other direction, down, is completely normal.


    I do understand what you're saying. What I am saying is I am not seeing the behavior you are seeing.

    If I switch my scroll system preferences to *jump to next page* (which is your setting, correct?) and I go into Aperture and I hold the mouse either over or under the thumb the window moves in the correct direction. continuously until the thumb and mouse pointer meet and then it stops.
    If I bring the thumb all the way to the top, click once below it to open up one page worth of space above the thumb and then put the pointer above the thumb in that itty bitty little space and hold the mouse down it goes to the top and stops.

    What is your pointing device and hardware btw?

    Now Clem is saying he is seeing your behavior so it might be a OS, hardware, pointing device related thing.

    Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano
  • 11. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)
    Hmmn, yeah could be another element is influencing it - don't see it on Leopard, but when I do see it, it isn't new to 3.1.2, I see it with my older archive copies of Aperture as well.
  • 12. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,820 points)
    Just got it to happen here. If I turn on *smooth scrolling* I get the behavior of the OP only, it seems, in Aperture.

    Good lesson here when describing a problem the more information that can be supplied the more likely someone will be able to help.

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming change to the window scrolling convention that will occur in Lion. Perhaps someone was testing the new scroll behavior out and forgot to reset it
  • 13. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Rob-K Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    I just updated from 10.6.6 to 10.6.7, and no change.

    I totally agree about the more info the better in tracking these things down, but since there is only one single instance where the issue occurs, I didn't think it was necessary to get into many specifics in this case. But, point taken.

    Just have to re-train myself to only single click for up.

    Now, if only Apple would address the manual GPS tagging bug, I'd be a lot happier. Its a PITA not to be able to apply locations via right-clicking on existing locations on the map. Either that, or they could rename the current contextual menu choice from "Assign Photos" to "Create New Location, offset to the North/East of the selected existing location" lol

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  • 14. Re: 3.1.2 Update: Assign Place bug still there, and now scrolling is screwed up
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,820 points)
    Rob-K wrote:

    Just have to re-train myself to only single click for up.


    If you turn off *smooth scrolling* in systems preferences then you'll get the correct behavior until the bug is fixed.

    BTW have you reported this to Apple? *Aperture->Provide Aperture Feedback*.