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Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?

I'm having major issues with my MacPro. Last week I was working when the screen froze. I had to force restart with the power button. Since then it has only booted in Safe Mode.

I've tried booting from MacOS 10.6.3 CD and latest Diskwarrior CD and it get part way through startup then hangs on blank screens. Oddly the cursor works okay at that point.

I suspect the problem might be a bad NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT card. I've seen that issue in a couple other posts

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1541589
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13011155&#13011155
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13031408&#13031408

Any help greatly appreciated!

MacPro1,1 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 2.66 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 3 GB 667MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM, NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, Cinema HD

Posted on Mar 30, 2011 10:19 PM

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Posted on Mar 31, 2011 6:25 AM

Why are you using CD and DVD when you could easily and should have another emergency boot drive plus some clone backups of your system, so you can run your Disk Warrior (4.3) and other programs off a 'live' hard drive and other programs.

If you suspect the 7300, maybe it is time to replace that too.
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Apr 11, 2011 10:17 PM in response to Shannon Mcglathery

Update:

I took my MacPro to the local genius bar and they couldn't figure out what is wrong.

- It passed their hardware diagnostics
- The hard drive is ok
- It still only boots in safe mode
- When it boots in normal mode from any system we tested it get part way through the boot then hangs on a blue screen with a cursor in the upper left. The cursor will move with the mouse but leaves a single copy of itself where it started.
- The genius bar dude said it still could be the graphics card or maybe RAM
- My other option is to check the patient in for a full diagnostic

I'm thinking of buying an ATI 5770 graphics card to see if that fixes the problem.

Anyone have any other ideas or similar experiences?

Apr 12, 2011 6:12 AM in response to Shannon Mcglathery

Conventional wisdom is that if it passes Safe Mode, but fails at regular system, the problem lies in the software on your Hard Drive, and most likely in kernel extensions.

Although it sounds onerous, I suggest you consider a System re-install. It takes about an hour, depending on how fast your Mac is, then another half-hour to bring it fully up-to-date.

Before actually performing a re-Install, you should be certain there are no flaws in your Hard Drive Directory by running Disk Utility Verify. Any problems must be Repaired in full before you begin the re-Install.

Apr 12, 2011 8:56 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

That was my first thought too: It's gotta be the system software. But it has the same problem when trying to boot off other systems. It won't boot from brand new Snow Leopard DVD, Diskwarrior DVD or a fresh install of Snow Leopard on a new external hard drive.

The guy at the genius bar tried a bunch of different systems and couldn't get it to boot.

But it will boot in safe mode from my current 10.5.8 system and the fresh Snow Leopard system on the external HD.

Could it still be the kernel given all that?

Apr 14, 2011 8:59 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

UPDATE:

I bought and installed an ATI HD 5770 graphics card and now my MacPro boots in normal mode. So we can conclude the GeForce 7300 was the problem. Yay!

But my 10.5.8 system doesn't seem to have a proper driver for the 5770. For example there is only one resolution available for my Cinema display, iTunes cover flow mode is doesn't work (it shows an error message in place of the flow) and the cursor has a slight flicker.

I looked online and could not find drivers to download, so I'm hoping an OS update to the latest Snow Leopard will fix the driver issue.

Apr 16, 2011 10:45 PM in response to Shannon Mcglathery

I have an early Intel Mac Pro that was running a NVIDEA GeForce 8800GT and a 7300.


Over a period the Mac wouldn't boot, then it took forever to get to the Apple logo and then would only boot into Safe Mode. I put a new formatted HD in, fresh RAM and with a fresh OS. Even with a bare system with no peripherals it was no go.


Things went from bad to worse over a week or so and I ended up buying a new Mac Pro 8 core so that I could keep producing.


This weekend working on the old Mac it seems it was indeed a video card issue. I had 3 7300 cards hanging around and it finally booted with one of the 7300 cards and without the later 8800GT.

I would never have thought a video card would bring a system down completely.

Sep 16, 2011 5:58 PM in response to Shannon Mcglathery

Me, too! With a model 3.1, 2008, 8-core.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3194585?answerId=15688122022#15688122022


It turned out to be the graphics card - old nvidia 8800GT died. New 5770 works but I thinks I need a "driver". I am also running on 10.5.8 OS. Do I have to upgrade to Snow Leopard to get the driver needed? Or is there one that works on Leopard? Where can I find it?


<There has got to be a billion Mac Pros with dying nvidia cards about this time - why is the diagnostic and repair process so hard to find? (and why don't graphics cards last as long as their computers - only 3 years!??)>

Sep 26, 2011 8:52 PM in response to Ken Jones1

I'm having the same problem. I'd like to get the ATI HD 5770 card. But it requires Snow Leopard and I'm still running 10.4.11. I don't mind upgrading to Snow Leopard. But since my computer won't boot up (except in safe mode, but not from any HD or DVD), I can't install Snow Leopard before installing the new card. Does anybody know if the card will work at all with 10.4.11? Perhaps with limited resolutions or something, but enough to allow me to boot up and then install Snow Leopard? Sharon above seemed to be able to boot up using 10.5.8 in a limited way.

Oct 24, 2011 11:07 PM in response to Shannon Mcglathery

Thank you for this thread. I recently had the same problem with my Mac Pro 1,1, the computer would only work in safe mode. Out of safe mode and the display would get some weird streaks in it, pointer would freeze then work again. After searching endlessly on the issue I found your post. Desperate, I ordered the ATI HD 5770 card from the Apple store (even tho the desc clearly states requirements are Mac Pro 2010+). Problem solved. Thank You SO much :-)

Oct 25, 2011 2:02 AM in response to briandrankinILM

For what it's worth, after doing some research I was actually able to repair my 7300GT. Turns out it's well documented that two of the capacitors on the board fail. If you have a soldering iron it's pretty easy to replace them. I'd never done any thing like it before and it worked out fine. I replaced the two capacitors and my computer booted up with no issues. Problem solved.

Oct 25, 2011 9:23 AM in response to vmalmgren

Capacitors are polarized. They work better and last longer when you observe the plus and minus markings on the old ones, and install the new ones with the same polarity. The physical size is of no importance, but new ones may be larger and may not fit in the same space.


You can increase the capacitance in almost every case with no impact, and you can use a hotter heat range and a higher Voltage rating, but not a lower capacitance or a lower heat range or a lower Voltage rating.

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