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  • 45. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Grant, Thank you so much for  your reply!

    Should I move this over to another thread?

    So the whole boot up and freezing problem could be caused by the faulty memory? Is there a way to take it out completely and see if it boots up normally?

    I don't know if this is of any help, but maybe it tells you something:

     

     

    Memory Slots:

     

      ECC:          Enabled

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1:

     

      Size:          512 MB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x830B

      Part Number:          0x4E54353132543732553839413842442D3343

      Serial Number:          0x15B12634

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2:

     

      Size:          512 MB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x830B

      Part Number:          0x4E54353132543732553839413842442D3343

      Serial Number:          0xE4892843

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3:

     

      Size:          1 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x05F7

      Part Number:          0x000000463732323842353245353636374600

      Serial Number:          0x00000000

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4:

     

      Size:          1 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x05F7

      Part Number:          0x000000463732323842353245353636374600

      Serial Number:          0x00000000

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 3:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 4:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

  • 46. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    FBDIMMs fail. There are cheap high quality on Amazon USA $29 2x2GB even if just t test with - a quad set 8GB would be ideal.

     

    The Apple OEM I had from Aug 2006 got too hot and failed and not worth having really (I had 4x512MB)

     

    The new ones should run cooler, you want 65*C not 75*C (anything over 70*C shortens their life)

     

     

    How To Install and Remove Memory Mac Pro

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4433

     

    2x2GB FBDIMM DDR2 667MHz @ $31

    http://www.amazon.com/BUFFERED-PC2-5300-FB-DIMM-APPLE-Memory/dp/B002ORUUAC/

    Hardware Monitor

    http://www.bresink.com/osx/HardwareMonitor.html

  • 47. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,275 points)

    Any DIMM positions showing empty, but actually containing a module, contain a failed module.

     

    You are at risk of having too little working memory in your Mac to have Mac OS X be stable and fast.

  • 48. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, just bought that double pack. If this solves my problem, I might go for another pack. I will let you guys know and thanks again to both of you!!

  • 49. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I received the ram, added it and took out the failed ones, but I still have the same problem, FYI:

    Memory Slots:

     

      ECC:          Enabled

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1:

     

      Size:          2 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x8551

      Part Number:          0x463036313031302020202020202020202020

      Serial Number:          0x01055B27

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2:

     

      Size:          2 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x8551

      Part Number:          0x463036313031302020202020202020202020

      Serial Number:          0x01056B18

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1:

     

      Size:          512 MB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x830B

      Part Number:          0x4E54353132543732553839413842442D3343

      Serial Number:          0x15B12634

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2:

     

      Size:          512 MB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x830B

      Part Number:          0x4E54353132543732553839413842442D3343

      Serial Number:          0xE4892843

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3:

     

      Size:          1 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x05F7

      Part Number:          0x000000463732323842353245353636374600

      Serial Number:          0x00000000

     

    DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4:

     

      Size:          1 GB

      Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

      Speed:          667 MHz

      Status:          OK

      Manufacturer:          0x05F7

      Part Number:          0x000000463732323842353245353636374600

      Serial Number:          0x00000000

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 3:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

     

    DIMM Riser B/DIMM 4:

     

      Size:          Empty

      Type:          Empty

      Speed:          Empty

      Status:          Empty

      Manufacturer:          Empty

      Part Number:          Empty

      Serial Number:          Empty

     

    I ran verify disc utilities to verify disc and it gave me this message:

    The volume Macintosh HD was found corrupt and needs to be repaired.

    Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Start up your computer with another disk (such as your Mac OS X installation disc), and then use Disk Utility to repair this disk.

     

    I have run disc utilities before and sometimes it comes uf fine, with no problems, sometimes like this. Problem is that it won't boot with the install disc, so I can't run disc repair that way.

  • 50. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    Your arrangement could be improved.

     

    4 or 8 DIMMs for symmetrical memory

     

    2x512 is not buying you much / they are old / they should be kept below 70*C

     

    Boost the fan speed minimum default for one thing, monitor temps

     

    move the 2 x 1GB to B1:B2

     

    Leave all the 3:4 slots empty

     

    And yes those are excellent sets from Amazon, and 6x2GB would help.

  • 51. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    You should ALWAYS have bootable clone backups plus a small emergency OS X system volume (30GB is more than enough, you can even try adding it to one of your backup drives).

     

    If nothing else and lacking backups and clone, might be rare situation where  you need to invest in

     

    doing a clean install on a drive partition / buying 3rd party

     

    you can't tell us WHAT OS you are runnning and what DVDs you have.

     

    Maybe you need to buy/download and SAVE Lion installer (before running) to flash drive and setup on separate drives. Or order 10.6.3 DVD $30 - if you have ATI 5770 you need 10.6.5 or higher of course. Otherwise NO reason to not boot DVD.

     

    One situation where you cannot: boot drive is really badly corrupt directory etc, in which case pull the drive, boot. Put the drive in FW/USB case and power on afer systen boooted. Empty FW/USB enclosures @ OWC www.macsales.com or Amazon

  • 52. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Not sure if I understand everything you said, but will google myself through your post. I will move around the Dimm's, but I have no idea how to boost the fan speed and if I find that the ram actually fixed the problema nd I can keep woring with this computer, I would def. go for more of those Dimm's, but if it's something else, I might need to safe the money for now. Don't know how to go about having a bootable clone back up and what that means. I have my hard drive backup on an external drive through time machine, but that's probably not what you mean. Don't really get the clean install..3rd party thing.. Sorry, I am not very educated when it come to this as you can tell.

    If by ATI 5770 you are referring to my graphics, I didn't change any of the original and have

    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, which is why I started up in this thread. I am on OS 10.6.8 and my install disc is 10.4.7. I also have the Snow Leopard 10.6 disc, but I think that was just an upgrade, so while I tried using it to boot, I am not sure if it would work.

  • 53. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    SmcFanControl 2.x www.macupdate.com

     

    $29 to have a good 4GB set of RAM? no brainer to me. take out all the others.

     

    no I mean use CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner on MacUpdate also) to clone and have bootable volume / install clean OS to to 30GB volume (shrink and create)

     

    NEVER have just one backup set.

     

    So forget the OEM DVD and use the 10.6.x DVD. There is no such thing as a retail upgrade DVD with Apple. It cannot be an OEM DVD from another user or computer, it would cause all kinds of mischief.

  • 54. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Moved dimm's to slots 1&2, removed old half gig rams, so am on 6gigs right now. Tried rebooting with 10.6 and just got grey screen

  • 55. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I do agree that $29 for 4gb is a no brainer, and that's why I ordered them right away, thing for me is this: it didn't fix my problem, so before I go out and order more ram, I'd rather get to the bottom of this..if I can. Just curious:

    I ended up in this thread, because I googled what was going on with my computer- only booting in safe mode, weird graphics (lo rez) grey screen with two mouse icons when trying to boot normally, hardware test coming back fine, etc..and I have no idea, why the graphics card would effect my computer in that way, but why did you guys rule that out as a problem?

    Is there a way of finding out if my Geforce 7300 is busted, without buying a new one for $300 and taking the chance of it not being the problem? I feel at that point, I might as well buy a new mac mini..not that I have the money right now, but saying investment wise might be a better idea?

    Obviously I would prefer to just fix this one at low cost ; )

    I am using my Mac for music production with Logic 9 mainly, is the mac mini even a good alternative, or do I have to go for the $2000 and up options, if all fails here?

    Thanks again for your help

  • 56. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    What I said, what I do anytime I buy new RAM:

     

    REMOVE _all_ of the OLD RAM.

     

    And yes forget using those 512's, and ADD back one set at a time after you see if you  can boot a virgin system from your DVD.

     

    I received the ram, added it and took out the failed ones, but I still have the same problem

     

    Too bad you can't find something, anything, to boot with as far as GPU.

     

    MACVIDCARDS ebay is great and he hangs out on MacRumors forum : Mac Pro

     

    You should be able to boot from 10.6 DVD with no disk drives installed or present.

     

    You should reset the SMC at this point. Hit power on button for 10 secs with ALL cables and power disconnected, then hook up only mouse/kb.

     

    You would do well with faster and more cores and some SSDs. No I would avoid the Mini. Maybe the iMac.

     

    For the cost of 2.9GHz iMac you could get into a 2010 2.8GHz $1800 that at least lets you add SSDs, GPU, RAM and a 6-core 3.33 as well ($620 for that).

     

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC560LL/A/refurbished-mac-pro-28ghz-quad-core- intel-xeon

     

    realize you had the new RAM but didnt try with just it and just a raw or no hard drives

  • 57. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    so to get this right, as I won't be able to follow up with you once I start going down the suggestions:

    remove ALL old ram, only start up with the new 4gb, boot with 10.6 dvd..what do you mean with virgin system?

     

    MACVIDCARDS means you think I should consider a new graphics card?

     

    How would I boot with no disk drives installed or present..I get there by what you explained with the 10 sec power on button? I am seeing this correctly: hit the button with no power cable conected??

     

    what's SMC, what are faster and more cores and SSD's?

  • 58. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    Matty2deep Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I can't afford to buy anything that is in the $1800 and up price range, honestly, I don't even have the money to buy the mac mini right now, but looking forward, how long, IF I were able to get my mac pro running again, how long will I have until it's done and outdated? From what I understand I can't even upgrade to mountain lion with it as is

  • 59. Re: Mac Pro Only Boots in Safe Mode - GeForce 7300 issue?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    $180 for Apple 8800GT from macvidcards, only good source today

     

    it works and does more now than it did

     

    apple today issued security updates for 10.6.8

     

    I don't see the need - yet - that ML is a "must"

     

    A used special on the mini as a 2nd backup system and if you do need iPhone/iCloud or something

     

    You can run Lion of course.

     

    YOU DO NOT NEED HDD to boot from a DVD. Insures it does. You can also use "D" on startup and your OEM 10.4.x DVD with Apple Hardware Test and see.

     

    I try to put $250/month into computer upgrades, next system so I do have a nest egg if needed.

     

    "system" is not just one part. All the bottlenecks. Slow old hard drives, low performance from your 4-core system.

     

    You know by now what SSDs are - they have been around since 2008. Moving things to different drives, having a dedicated fast (SSD) for scratch... all help, along with having "enough plus" of RAM.

     

    S = system M = Management C = Controller

     

    And you can buy or assemble a Windows PC for $900 that would "kick" and run like a champ with an i5 4-core and GTX 660 and 16-32GB RAM. And earn its keep maybe.