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  • MuggsMcGinnis Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I drew an 'o' with an umlaut, "ö", and the iPad didn't recognize the character. I searched Help for "umlaut" and found nothing. The iPad's writing recognition is too slow and unreliable to be useful, anyway. It's good for writing a shopping list or something, but not for real writing. It's maddening to me that computers lose capabilities over time. If the iPad could convert writing to text as fast and reliably as my Palm Pilot was able to, I would have kept it.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (73,040 points)

    The iPad itself doesn't do handwriting recognition, except for Chinese, so I guess you must be referring to the performance of some app you downloaded.  Which one was it?

  • MuggsMcGinnis Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    The iPad comes with a built-in note app. I also bought Evernote. Apple is depending upon app vendors to make up for the deficiencies of the base product but the app market is, at best, unreliable. The Apple engineers in California and the sweat-shop laborers in China make some excellent hardware, but the iPhone and iPad software isn't yet ready for prime time. I thought the iPad might be good enough to replace a paper notebook and pen for writing and, had they included writing-recognition software as good as that built into the Palm Pilot, Apple would have achieved that goal.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (73,040 points)

    MuggsMcGinnis wrote:

     

    The iPad comes with a built-in note app. I also bought Evernote.

     

    Neither of those do handwriting.  Presumably you must be talking about WritePad or Notetaker HD not being able to recognize the umlaut, right?

  • Minkio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It's no point trying to name the application here, because the apps are there to try to plug the gap left out by Apple intentionally.

     

    If you do remember what does the word PAD in iPad means commonly, I think it is reasonable for people to associate the product with paper and pen. So it is an odd decision I think, that Apple had dropped this handwritting reconition out as a general OS level service. Does the iPad 2 not powerful enough to support it? I don't think so. Has this been done before? Yes, million times, even Windows does it and this has been done for Chinese on the iPad. I am a Chinese and I thank Apple for making handwritting reconition for my mother-tough, but I am baffled by Apple at the same time, that English is not supported in this area.

     

    Don't get me wrong I own a few other wonderful products by Apple and I do actively promote Apple's products to my friends as a user.

     

    I do hope improvements in this area are in the pipeline for the near future.

     

    This was typed on my iPad 2 but it could have been written instead.

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)

    Minkio wrote:

     

    It's no point trying to name the application here, because the apps are there to try to plug the gap left out by Apple intentionally.

     

     

    Well, since the point of this discussion is technical support for a specific iPad question (handwriting recognition) and Muggs was talking about specific apps, then there is a point in naming the application.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (73,040 points)

    Minkio wrote:

     

    It's no point trying to name the application here

     

    Nonsense.  If some app claims to do handwriting recognition and then cannot do o-umlaut, you should be able to name the app and then you should ask its makers to fix it.

     

    And if you want to give Apple your views on features they should add to their OS, the best place is not here but

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

  • IPadforwriting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I would agree with you -- clearly they are technically capable of offering handwriting recognition, but they haven't gotten 'round to it.  There is other handwriting software out there, but none that gives compatibility with Word (which is critical if you really want to get work done).  I would keep an eye out for 7 Notes, though, as it sounds like they are putting something together...

     

    Take a look at this link and mark it as a favourite if you wish!

     

    http://getsatisfaction.com/7notes/topics/import_function_needed?utm_content=topi c_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (31,340 points)

    I linked to their app hours ago Sherlock!

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (76,140 points)

    Minkio wrote:

     

    If you do remember what does the word PAD in iPad means commonly, I think it is reasonable for people to associate the product with paper and pen. So it is an odd decision I think, that Apple had dropped this handwritting reconition out as a general OS level service.

    Because a paper and pen do handwriting recognition?

  • LarchKin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I too loved the Palm's handwriting recognition feature which you could use in Any app. I would turn entire pages from my computer which were in Word, into Notes for my Palm. And vice versa. SO much faster than silly "typing" by hitting the teeensy keyboard with your fingertip.

     

    I've even done a test on my old Palm and my new iPodTouch in opening and searching the same application. the iPod is about twice as slow.

     

    And I just can't transfer written info off my Mac laptop to the iPodTouch or iPhone or iPad.  

     

    I've used WritePad but it is a lousy app, slow, and frequently incorrect compared to Graffitti. I've been a Mac user since the late 80s. I think in their urge to differentiate themselves from Palm, back when Mac was entering the handheld-device/smartphone world, caused them to avoid the most logical and easy way to use or enter info into these devices.

     

    OK, Apple, you've gained market share; please get over your anti-writing snit.

     

    Yeah,  just venting.

  • IPadforwriting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Agreed! 

     

    You might want to take a look at Apple's latest promotion of iOS on their web site:

     

    http://www.apple.com/ipad/ios/

     

    If you look at the bottom, you'll see they add insult to injury by promoting their handwriting recognition--IN CHINESE!! 

     

    Tell me -- is there really more demand for Chinese handwriting recognition than English handwriting recognition?  Is it really that hard for Apple to implement an English version, especially given that the Chinese one recognises English letters (just not punctuation)?

  • IPadforwriting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It might help to send Apple's suport team a feature request for English handwriting (I already did):

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

     

    I am also thinking about setting up a Facebook page to get others to support the request and raise awareness

  • MuggsMcGinnis Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I remember using my Palm Pilot all the time. I did technical consulting at a university and it was so handy to be able to generate text files using a hand-held device. I could write faster than with a pen on paper and the text recognition was almost 100%.

     

    What makes me crazy is that computers lose capability over time. It always seems to me that computers should GAIN capabilities but never lose abilities.