Change loop key

Well It would seem that APPLE should perhaps concentrate on the Graphic Art market and the fancy

pacaging and Hyp market and leave composing music to the Musicians.....Yes I'm disapointed..

The most basic and fundamental things of an original musical composition is ,

to freely arrange a chord progression which is Melodic and is set forth to touch the heart and soul. .

After all Music is, in it's true essence, An Emotion and a true heart felt feeling ....

Apple have not allowed this basic instict with Garage Band so that true Artists like ourselves can

be set free to create new and original Music that is forever spinning around inside our minds.

We simply want to get our musical ideas down as a recording of what we hear in our minds ears

before we forget them. Let me say that when I imagine a piece of music , Groove , Lick , Beat or arrangement,

I hear absolutely everything from drums through instruments and down to all the voclals , harmonies etc ..

If there was a piece of equipment that I could plug into my head and extract what my minds ear hears.,

I would not be living like a peasant ... Ha! Don't worry It'll happen one day.

Garage Band is not the answer.

I'll continue to do it the old school way.

In fact I've just purchased a ZOOM R16 Interface digital Controller

In 3 days I've done more than the Garage Band Toy.

Go the ZOOM R16 It's eazy. Real time freedom.... Yippie!!!!!

The most basic and fundamental things of an original musical composition is ,

to freely arrange a chord progression which is Melodic and is set forth to touch the heart and soul. .

But you can do chord progressions in GarageBand - I am doing it all the time: Select a loop in the Time Line and adjust the pitch slider - this will transpose the loop in semitone steps.

For software instrument loops it is very simple:

If I want a basic guitar accompanyment with a chord progression, a pick a nice guitar loop from the loop browser and set the pitch slider to zero for the basic chord, and to "7" for the quinte, to "5" for the quart.

For real instrument loops you need to select it, and in the track editor enable "follow tempo and pitch" and adjust the pitch slider. You will see the transposition in the lower left corner of the loop (in semi tone steps).

To control the tempo for parts of a song use the "tempo" automation curve of the Master track. You can change the tempo freely within you song.

This is just to point out some GarageBand features you might have missed.

With everything else you have said about making music coming from the heart I agree:

after all Music is, in it's true essence, An Emotion and a true heart felt feeling ....

Regards

Léonie

Googsy wrote:

Well It would seem that APPLE should perhaps concentrate on the Graphic Art market and the fancy

pacaging and Hyp market and leave composing music to the Musicians.....Yes I'm disapointed..

After all Music is, in it's true essence, An Emotion and a true heart felt feeling ....

Apple have not allowed this basic instict with Garage Band so that true Artists like ourselves can

be set free to create new and original Music that is forever spinning around inside our minds.

We simply want to get our musical ideas down as a recording of what we hear in our minds ears

before we forget them.

I hear a lot of "want' and "demands" from a true Artist, but with all due respect from a fellow artist, you are overlooking something here.

If a true Artist wants to put down his inspiration, he uses a pen and writes down his music. In case an Artist hasn't learned to write music notation, does he blame the company that makes the pen or paper?

Ok, pen and paper is outdated. If you want to "get your musical ideas down as a recording", then you rent a recording studio and hire a sound engineer who learned his profession and helps you do that. Ok, that is outdated too.

You might have noticed that composers/musicians are nowadays their own engineers. The problem is, that this is a total separate field, a very technical and sometimes complicated one. Although the available tools are (seem to be) easy to use, they need some level of training. You can call yourself an artist by putting together some beats or be the DJ (who is spinning the music of other Artists), but with recording technology, you will be confronted very fast with your own limitation if you don't learn that field.

You use pretty strong words to accuse Apple or trash GarageBand. Think about the following:

I like to fly, I like to feel the emotion of gliding through the air. I go to company X and by their airplane Y. However, I'm frustrated because I can't get that thing of the ground to fulfill my dreams of flying. What is the logical step. I badmouth the airplane Y and accuse company X for limiting my dreams, they should make hamburgers and not airplanes.

Makes sense?

Or, I grab the manual (that thing that explains how to use things), educate myself, learn how to fly and learn how to use an airplane first before complaining.

I'm all for ease of use and intuitive user interface. Maybe you don't need to read up on a manual to play Angry Birds, but GarageBand and all the other DAWs are music production applications that require a bit of understanding of "music production" and their underlying technology and procedure. Some apps are easier (limited feature set), some are more complex (Logic, ProTools). Anything that is confusing or not clear can be read in documentations or watched on countless YouTube videos. Or come to the Forum with a specific question that is not clear "AFTER" reading the documentation.

Unfortunately, there is a sense of "entitlement" with people. "That stuff needs to work, why is it not working". If not, someone else has to spend their time to explain it instead that user spent his own time first and does the research. The acronym RTFM is kind of rude but unfortunately the only response in many requests.

LeonieDF spent his time to write up a great response, even made some niece graphics. This is not a tip for trouble shooting, it is not some hidden feature or some complex technology that needed to be explained further. This is the basic functionality explained in the documentation that every user has access to.

Please note that this is not a personal attack, just a general observation. If you are looking for opinion, tips, troubleshooting help, you will find plenty of helpful, professional and highly skill people on the forum. If someone asks questions on the forum "… I read that thing xyz and tried it but I still don't get it …" then there is no problem with. Remember, a Tutor is there to help someone with their homework, not doing the homework for them.

About the problems with Apple Loops.

As with many "easy to use" technologies, you don't have to know the details in the background. However, if you are stuck, then it helps to know the mechanics. Knowing about the "Follow Tempo & Pitch" feature, what it does, how it relates to the Transient Markers. Knowing that Apple Loops are "special" audio files" with additional information that makes the Apple Loop magic work.

I wrote a free manual just for Apple Loops to explain the topic and the background

http://dingdingmusic.com/DingDing/ManualsFree.html

I also have a highly visual manual for GarageBand 11 that also explains the implementation of Apple Loops especially in GarageBand

http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

Either way, with a little invested time of reading up on the subject, one will find that the technology (in this case Apple Loops) can be used to its full extend. Ultimately, this enables you to make music with Garageband that is "… in it's true essence, an Emotion and a true heart felt feeling …"

I wander the same thing. I have read everything i find, but i can not find any methods to change the key for a loop. The problem is only on Ipad.... Have you get any answear how to change the key now????? All the beautiful samles is unusable if its not possible to change the key on Ipad.

I was really enjoying Garageband until I read in the book by Mary Plummer "Key is the musical key for the entire project. Once you set the key all of the prerecorded loops will automatically match the project key". I have much music which requires a change in the key, and so it has become very boring, and very amateur.

Are you asking about GarageBand on the iPad or iPhone? You are posting in the garageBand for Mac forum.

On the iPad or iPhone you can transpose the sections of a song differently.

Create a different section for the loops you want to transpose to a different key.

Transpose regions in the track

You can change the pitch of (or transpose) recordings or loops in a track up or down by semitones or octaves. After you turn on transposition for a track, any new recordings or loops you add to the track are also transposed.

1. Tap Transposition.
2. To transpose by octaves, tap the Octaves up or down arrow, or swipe vertically to transpose by multiple octaves.
3. To transpose by semitones, tap the Semitones up or down arrow, or swipe vertically to transpose by multiple semitones.

Transposition applies to all regions in the track for the current song section, but you can choose different transposition values for the same track for different song sections. If you move or copy a region to a different section with a different transposition value, the value appears as Multiple. For more information about song sections and transposition, see Extend a song with song sections.

Hello Leonie, yes its true I have mac and not a iPad, or an iPhone. I got really stuck being a newbie when I was trying to write sheet music from a book into Garageband. and I found changing up was a little difficult for someone like me with really no musical ability. When I wrote the stuff in quite honestly it sound nothing lie it should have.