Final Cut Pro X

Derail this thread??? Now that's funny!

Here are some more interesting parallels, Maxplanar. Since you must also know about the Opium wars, you must find it interesting that Kodak is currently being manned by a number of high-level Chinese nationals and has started prosecuting copyright infringements against Apple in the last couple of years?

Nothing new about competing for technological advantage and market share, but when the technology reaches its pinnacle then the game really can get pretty crazy pretty fast.

Apple should buy RED or something similar, get their CMOS sensors from Canon or somewhere and get back to FCS, iMacs and iPods. If they need financing they should talk to Ford Motor Corp.

mark133 wrote:

... London bank social ordering... major financial... power from the Church... social structure... iMac... the common man.

You make your argument that high-level editing can not be achieved by changing the software... Or do you simply find it objectionable to open that possibility to everyman?

Dude. Stop. Just stop. Please.

I've said it already. What does FCX give you that iMovie did not? Aside from costing 20 times more and having a "Pro" label? The common man no more wants to edit a Movie, TV Show, Commercial, Documentary, Music Video, Short Film, etc than they want to bake their own Oreos...

Really, I know. I'm only here because there's more value in the time per product than in carving fine hardwood furniture. There's no way I could ever compete with the most nimble editors. Realistically I have to take advantage from the marketing power of the media for my own use, when combined with my own hand-crafted product. Maybe the customer who wouldn't recognize the gilded scroll on a french polish quarter-sawn panel will appreciate it if they see it with their own eyes....on a flat screen. Such is the power of media. And it's a power that should be available to everyman, regardless of how many choose to use it.

But besides that, the quantity and content of you tube documentaries and movies is increasing and improving. And here's what my 5-year old produced and directed this afternoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvrfV8ulzM

Be sure to take down a few draughts before you click.

Wow,

Have you ever used imovie? I started out with that little program and quickly came to the point where things were uneditable. To say that FCX is no different shows that you are either not looking into the prgram or your just reading blogs. I've worked with FC7, imovie, and now FCX. All great programs depending on your level and in some instances your age. However I would disagree with your statement that its "20x more" than imovie, another indicator you are embellishing a little 😉

Regardless, I was a little irritated that I couldnt import FC7 projects onto FCX, however that's why I still kept a copy of FC7. I will say that I spent a few days actually learning to use the new program and have to say that for most of the projects I do, it makes it easier. It took awhile to get use to functionality, but so did switching from PC to Mac.

And the common "older" man might not want to learn some of these things, but the younger generation is eating it up. I've seen teenagers editing better videos that people that have been in the business for 15 or 20 years due to resistance to change. I may not have a tone of experience in this, but I do know that FCX has a ton more to offer than imovie and is well worth the $300 to a creative mind in conjuction with motion.

Honestly, it would be nice to find out who, if anyone, on this forum still has the energy to REALLY learn FPX combined with the experience to know the differences?

Emergeproductions wrote:

Wow,

Have you ever used imovie? I started out with that little program and quickly came to the point where things were uneditable. To say that FCX is no different shows that you are either not looking into the prgram or your just reading blogs. I've worked with FC7, imovie, and now FCX. All great programs depending on your level and in some instances your age. However I would disagree with your statement that its "20x more" than imovie, another indicator you are embellishing a little 😉

...snip...

I played with iMovie. My daughter can whip up a little film with it in no time. My question was to those who were saying - Finally! Editing for the common man! What more did they feel they were getting with FCX?

And I am embellishing not one whit.. It's just simple math. iMovie is $15. FCX is $300. 300 / 15 = 20. FCX costs 20 times what iMovie does.

Emergeproductions wrote:

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I've seen teenagers editing better videos that people that have been in the business for 15 or 20 years due to resistance to change.

...snip...

I am not the only professional who tires of the "Oh - you're just resistant to change" sniping. Professional editing is nothing but change. Codecs/Cameras/Toolsets/Methodologies/Equipment/Requirements/Etc... All change constantly. If I didn't change, I'd still be asking for my dailies on 3/4" umatic with visible timecode and twisting knobs on an RM450.

mark133 wrote:

Blah blah blah blah... pretentious BS... blah blah blah...

This guy's an idiot.

Patrick, you have to admit that there must be a number of p'd-off grumps with a shop full of FCP who are used to knowing all the ins and outs for a few workers who constantly defer to themselves for answers. You must admit that there are a number of professionals who didn't 'know' about this until now. You must admit that change in software format will certainly generate a force of 'grumpiness factor' to the third degree or so under such circumstances.

I have to read through posts like James M. to try to learn if there are, actually, any specific threats in the course that the technological development is taking. I haven't found any specific questions yet, apart from certain unsupported formats. There was a mention of the inability to time frames or add chapters to DVD's, which posts were soon corrected. Are there any signs that specific key technologies or capabilities are being removed from the marketplace?

Hi All

Apple have just released the APIs for XML in both FCPX and Motion. So I start writing code tonight :D

Please PM me any requests for conversion formats and features. Obviously I will be doing FCPX to AE, FCP7, PP, EDL and OMF. Also for Nuke, Fusion and Smoke. Going to have markers to show where any problems or mismatches might be.

The same is true for conversion from FCP7 & EDLs to X

Pi

No he's not stupid, just deranged. I equate him to some character right out of "Brave New World" or a HG Wells novel. I'm sure he is also a George Bernard Shaw groupie.

I've got a great idea. If we ignore him, maybe he'll just go away 🙂

Speaking of going away, I think, very soon all the video pros will be leaving Apple discussions and taking with them all their knowledge. I for one have benefited tremendously from you guys/and gals input and help over the years.

I just wanted to say "Thank You".

See ya in the Adobe discussions forums, I hope. 😉

Oops, my mistake 😊 The APIs havn't been released just yet. I was checking on the iPhone, as I have been every other hour for the last two weeks, and accedentaly sorted by topic and the old APIs appeared at the top of the list. So I jumped the gun a bit. Hopefully we'll see it soon though. Still put your requests in though.

Pi Digital

Me.