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  • Niklas Carlsson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Oh, its not the educational edition I'm using. It's the real product, but I'm currently using it for my own educational purposes. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
  • Paul Cuciti Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)
    Score another one for the hordes of people who will now Attempt to edit their own projects, without the need for a professional.

    Kudos, Apple..........................NOT!
  • Ian R. Brown Level 6 Level 6 (18,320 points)
    The fact that FCP is being upgraded does not render FCS 3 useless.

    It is still the top editing app and should help make you a fortune just as it has done for all the other FCS editors.

    When I bought one of my cars it was promptly superseded but now, eight years later on, it is still working as well as the day I bought it.

    I never felt the need to replace it with the new one.
  • Patrick Sheffield Level 7 Level 7 (29,175 points)
    Tom Wolsky wrote:
    No announcements were made of any other products. Clearly elements from both Color and Motion have been subsumed into FCP X.


    Not sure how clear it was what has been subsumed or not...

    Also not at all clear what the effects / plugin interface will be.

    Patrick Sheffield
    Sheffield Softworks
  • Paul Cuciti Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)
    Not exactly to my point, Ian.

    i'm not a big fan of hiding behind a wall of voodoo (interface, in this case), but even the world's best editing system is useless without projects, and the the more idiot-proof FCP gets, the less producers will want to hire experienced editors. We're all looking at a shrinking market.

    I should stop to ask here; where is the best clearinghouse for facts about this upgrade? I would have thought Apple would have this on the front page - maybe below the fold.
  • MtnTvGuy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Sigh. Three years ago I switched to a Mac so I could use both Final Cut Studio and Sony Vegas Pro on the same machine. Final Cut was $1,200.00, then. Two months later Final Cut Studio 3 came out... $300.00 for the upgrade, but the price of the program came down to $1,000.00. So I had $1,500.00 invested in software that was now worth $1,000.00. I whined to Apple and they gave me a free Mighty Mouse. Now, to get the new FCX, I'll have to cough up another $300.00, giving me a total of $1,800.00 invested in software that's worth $300.00. I'm not feeling very appreciated, Apple.
    I do like my 17" MacBook Pro, however.
  • Jon Braeley Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
    If you want to complain about upgrade costs try the "Adobe upgrade treadmill" for squeezing every cent out of you - I spent thousands with Adobe over the last 20 years and I finally saw the light at CS3!!
    My concern with FCPX is if Apple has simplified it too much - like auto this and auto that ... I like my NLE in manual please mode please.
    The second concern is the spin off back to a single app for sale - how this fits with a studio version is anybodys guess right now, unless you are Steve Jobs of course. I need Soundtrack Pro and Color for sure as these need to be closely integrated. DVD Studio can be an independent program.
  • Ian R. Brown Level 6 Level 6 (18,320 points)
    Yesterday's announcement was just a teaser to whet your appetite and get everyone speculating, which is one of the best and cheapest forms of advertising.

    All will be revealed in the fulness of time after Apple has milked the speculation phase.

    For the foreseeable future nothing will be available to replace experienced editors.

    You can give a monkey a piano but it will never compose or play like Mozart or Beethoven, who was, I believe, a dog!
  • ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)
    MtnTvGuy wrote:
    Sigh. Three years ago I switched to a Mac so I could use both Final Cut Studio and Sony Vegas Pro on the same machine. Final Cut was $1,200.00, then. Two months later Final Cut Studio 3 came out... $300.00 for the upgrade, but the price of the program came down to $1,000.00. So I had $1,500.00 invested in software that was now worth $1,000.00. I whined to Apple and they gave me a free Mighty Mouse. Now, to get the new FCX, I'll have to cough up another $300.00, giving me a total of $1,800.00 invested in software that's worth $300.00. I'm not feeling very appreciated, Apple.
    I do like my 17" MacBook Pro, however.


    "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." -Warren Buffett
  • Demara Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Here's (another) article on FCPX.

    http://www.larryjordan.biz/appbin/wordpress/archives/1452#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utmcampaign=feed

    I've been planning on getting FCP for the past month or so, but I wasn't crazy about Compressor and some of the other stuff that came in the Studio bundle. Now I'm just happy I can get FCPX by itself.

    I just have one question, maybe someone can answer it - will it be a data download through the Mac App Store, or will we be able to somehow purchase a physical copy? I feel better having actual discs around in case I need to reinstall quickly.
  • RGE technical Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    any one has a clue how the workflow will be with a xsan server and omenioun
  • MtnTvGuy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I'm watching the comments from the announcement on other blogs and forums. Many "pros" are wailing that Apple has just announced they're not interested in the pro market, anymore. I don't get that attitude at all: Why would anyone think something is more "pro" just because it's more difficult to use? If it makes my workflow easier, I'm all for it.

    My disappointment in my investment return aside, I see this as a smart move for Apple. And it just might make me use it more than I have in the past.
  • thrillcat editorial Level 4 Level 4 (3,840 points)
    Pros want control over everything. We're not looking for an easy button. We turn OFF the auto iris on our cameras. We want control and power, because we feel like we can make a better decision than a computer looking at 0s and 1s. I don't want my NLE to remove that buzz when I import my footage, because maybe it's SUPPOSED to be there. Don't color correct my footage for me. I shoot it how I want it to look.

    I am really looking forward to the performance upgrades. I'm not so sure about the new features and interface, but I will give it a try. At $299, well, that's about a half day's work. It's not going to put me out of business. I just hope there's a way to turn off all the easy buttons they seem to be adding.
  • William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,890 points)
    If Apple goes to a more iMovie-like interface, they already know many people dislike that which is why they continued to leave the old timeline-based iMovie available for download for quite awhile.

    No professional will accept selecting a block of video to edit by selecting it with the mouse - you need to be able to specify in and out points to the FRAME and have a way to enter it by hand.

    Just one example.
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