Editing Canon dslr video

So I have a general question here. I have read a lot of forums and seen Alot of mixed results.
I have a dual core 27 inch iMac and I'm going to be buying a canon dslr camera soon (canon 60d) for video. I want to be absolutely certain I won't have too much of an issue with editing this hd video in final cut pro on my iMac. I realize any hd video is going to need some deal of rendering but hopefully you know what I mean. I don't want to deal with rendering so poor and playback so poor that it is impossible to deal with. Basically what I'm getting at is does anyone have experience with editing these canon dslr video clips on a dual core intel based 4gb RAM iMac. If so, could you share your experiences from it? How well it worked etc.

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Bryan

Imac, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on Apr 14, 2011 8:18 PM

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Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM in response to IBryan4423

I have a Canon SX1 IS which shoots in full HD 1080p. The first thing I'd suggest is that you will need more RAM - 12 to 16 GB; also, I've not used FCP, but generally use FCE, iMovie, and iDVD and rendering takes a lot of processing power as well as RAM. Your profile does not specify which iMac you have; my i3 is considerably faster than my older 24", but it still takes time, especially if you will use 1080p footage. That will also result in unbelievably huge files (how much empty hard drive space do you have??). So, yes, you can do it, but it will still take time - if you want to have a more professional setup, then I'd suggest you invest in a Mac Pro.

And, you might want to consider using a high speed card reader for your SDHC cards (rather than attaching the camera) - it's less cumbersome and saves batteries.

Apr 15, 2011 7:46 AM in response to babowa

I talked to another person on the Final cut pro forum that told me more ram would not improve my rendering times. It would simply allow the program to boot faster etc. He said that apparently FCP doesn't utilize the ram that heavily?

Anyhow, I currently have the dual core 27inch mac and although id love to upgrade to a better computer thats simply not an option because i'm a college student with a limited budget. What do you convert/transcode your video to when you edit it in Final cut express? I've heard a lot of good things about pro-res?

Apr 15, 2011 9:42 AM in response to IBryan4423

Well, that person may be more knowledgeable - I'm not a pro, just a "regular" user who likes to make movies with special effects, etc. I did notice a major improvement in rendering and encoding times comparing my old 2.16 GHz / 3 GB RAM iMac to my new 3.2 GHz / 12 GB RAM iMac - not sure if it's just the processor and/or the increase in RAM (my gut feeling says it's probably a combination of both). The short sequences I edit in FCE (mostly use it for layering several videos) are all exported into iMovie to be finalized and put together there, so I use Quicktime settings (usually H.264 because that has given me the best quality results). Occasionally, I use MPEG Streamclip first to reduce the clips from 1080p to 720p because I've found that I can't see a difference on my particular HDTV and it makes working with the much smaller file size a lot faster. There again, I use H.264. I've never used pro-res - checked all the settings in FCE and could not find it (since that is the mini or "dummy" version of FCP, it may not be available?).

Apr 17, 2011 11:35 PM in response to IBryan4423

Hi there Bryan,


The problem you have there is that that camera records in h.264. H.264 is not an editing format. It is a compressed delivery format. (e.g wav and aiff vs mp3)


The wonderful thing about the 60d/ 5d mk2 and most of these dslrs is that you have nice sensors/ great light sensitivity in the case of the 5d mk2, and great lenses to choose from. The downside is that the video format is compressed and you will take a hit as far as rendering previews go. These cameras are first and foremost still cameras.


What you'll want to do is convert your files over to a format that is more editing friendly using something like "mpeg streamclip".


Google works wonders but here are some links to get you started.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbAMyMqCZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWcgOOkhxSU


Mpeg Streamclip

http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html


Good luck and let me know if that helps.


-joe

Apr 26, 2011 2:12 PM in response to doodlebang

Hey Joe,


So I have been messing with my 60D and editing in Final cut pro by converting to pro res LT. Overall this has worked great. I do have one quick question though and this is something that has bothered me for awhile and ive never quiet understood. Every once in awhile i will select "Render all" and the render load bar will flash up so fast it makes you believe that nothing really needs rendering. However, when i go back to play the video. It will get glitchy around transition points etc. Any idea why every once in awhile this manual rendering doesn't appear to be actually rendering the clip? Sorry i know this is sort of a vague question.


Thanks,


Bryan

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