4 GB ipod nano can only fit 190 songs

Hi there, I just bought an ipod nano that has a 4GB capacity, yet after I imported nearly 200 songs on it, it's completely full. I was wondering if I was supposed to somehow compress the songs, or was it the method I had imported the cd files - I created a playlist and then imported the cd audios onto it, and then I transferred it to my ipod. I assumed I was effectively doing the same thing. And one more querie - what's an ID3 Tag? If you could help me, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2005 4:32 PM

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Dec 26, 2005 7:58 PM in response to Teine88

You have now answered the question. WAV files are a Lossless format with an absolutely HUGE file size. If the songs are still in iTunes, you can do an intralibrary conversion to a Lossy format with a smaller files size with no loss of audio quality. In order to do this, you must first check your import settings. iTunes>Edit>Preferences>Advanced tab>Importing, you will need to set the importing preferences to either AAC or mp3 at a bitrate of at least 128 for AAC, & 160 for mp3. If you need to use your music in any other hardware, such as a car stereo, I would suggest mp3. Anyway, once the importing preferences are set, right click on the WAV files, then click on "convert to". This will convert to the file to your selected importing format. One word of caution, when you do a conversion like this, you will end up with duplicates. You will need to delete the WAV files off the computer.

Dec 26, 2005 7:21 PM in response to Sandpuppy

Sandpuppy, a reset will not help. In order to start from scratch, you will have to do a restore. The following link will review how to restore, in case you are unfamiliar with how to do it.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60983

I know what that tech specs say, but, again, that is based on the average 4 minute song imported @ 128 kbps. You appear to be having a capacity conflict & the only way to resolve it is to do a restore.

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Dec 26, 2005 4:48 PM in response to Teine88

Thanks, I thought that might be the case, so I'm trying to find out exactly what it is that I did for it to only store so much. Which is why is assumed it might be in the way I uploaded the songs. If I convert the songs on my nano to ID3 tags will it make them smaller - (laughs) of course I say this out of complete ignorance of what the **** ID3 tags are.

Dec 26, 2005 5:05 PM in response to Teine88

Hmm just wondering, in my quest to put as much songs on my nano as possible, I er transferred a folder full of songs from windows media into my ipod (around the photo cache part of my nano) do these songs contribute to the capacity of my nano? and if so *laughs bitterly at her own stupidit* I can't seem to find the photo cache anymore.

Dec 26, 2005 5:52 PM in response to Becc

My 2GB currently has 320 songs left with room for about another 100 i think.

But to the topic starter - there may not be a problem with your 4GB ipod. When i went to add songs to my iTunes library a box came up on screen asking me if i wanted to compress the songs to AAC format which makes each song take up less space. If this box did not come up on your iTunes then i dont know why but if someone else could explain why then that might fix your problem!

Dec 26, 2005 6:17 PM in response to Teine88

The following link will give you an explanation of what an ID3 tag is. Basically, it is the song file identification on your computer where things like song title, artist, etc. are stored.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3

Now, when it come to the capacity of your Nano, this sounds like you are importing in a Lossless format, high bitrate or both. I need for you to check a couple of things & post back with the information. Open iTunes, right click on a couple of songs, then click "get info", post back with the format & bitrate those songs are in. In iTunes, edit>preferences>advanced>importing tab, the first window should show what the format & bitrate is set to import your CD's into iTunes. One other suggestion when you post, it's very helpful if you will post exactly what your computer & OS is, what version of iTunes you're using, & the exact kind & size of your iPod. If you are having a problem, please include any error messages or error codes, & what exactly you were attempting to do when the problem happened. Happy Holidays!

Dec 26, 2005 6:52 PM in response to StarDeb55

While not the original poster, I have a similar problem with my wife's Nano. I have only 98 songs and 8 photos on it and am showing 1.68 GB used (out of 2GB). The songs are imported with ACC and 128 kbps rate. Even if I remove the photos there isn't much more space freed up. But, still it does not seem that I could get any where near 400-500 song on it. I have a 20G IPod myself with only 650 songs on it using the same procedures and it has a ton of space left. Any advice appreciated.

Dec 26, 2005 6:59 PM in response to Teine88

Hi there, thankyou for responding. I didn't know which songs you wanted me to find information on - the ones stored on the library or the ones on my ipod. On my first night using my ipod I accidently erased all the files that I had copied into my ipod off the library, so the songs stored in the library are different to those on my ipod ( apologies I hope you get that convoluted sentence). I took it to mean those on my ipod and so information on the songs on my nano showed no set pattern, songs differed greatly in bitrate from 128 KBPS - 1411KBPS furthermore there were quite a number of songs that didn't have a format, whereas others did, 'MPEG-1,layer3' the remaining songs had a profile of 'low complexity'. laughs sorry about the lack of informtion on my computer etc. my computer challenged brain hindered my ability to provide it. err I have a pentium 4 computer and when I went to check on 'check for itunes updates' it offered the 6.0.1 version, so I would hazard a guess that my version is the one just older than that.I (fortunately) have recieved no confounding error message other than the one telling me that I had filled my ipod to its limits. Thankyou once again.

Dec 26, 2005 7:12 PM in response to Teine88

The files that show a bitrate of 1411 are probably some type of Lossless format such as WAV or Apple Lossless. Lossless files have a gigantic file size, probably 10 times bigger than files imported in AAC or mp3 even at higher bitrates. I still need the " get info" information from a couple of songs that are in your library. When Apple quotes a specific capacity for any iPod that is based on the average 4 minute song imported in AAC format @ 128kbps.

Dec 26, 2005 7:32 PM in response to StarDeb55

Thanks for that. The majority of the songs in the library (which I don't use) are at 128KBPS and in the MPEG-1,Layer3 format.These songs were dowloaded from the net unlike the songs that I imported onto my ipod from cd. As I said in a previous post - I imported by creating a playlist, coping the songs onto it and then putting it on my ipod (did this affect the size?).
So what exactly does this bitrate thing mean for me, do you suggest that I delete those songs? or am I able to change it?

Dec 26, 2005 7:50 PM in response to Teine88

The mp3 @ 128 kbps songs are fine. They have a very small file size. What I need to know is where these songs came from that have a bitrate of 1400+ ? These are the songs that are reducing the capacity of your Nano. If they are still in iTunes, can you please post back with the "get info" on them. I really need to know what the format & bitrate is on these specific songs. Importing or syncing to a playlist IS NOT the problem. The problem is format & bitrate the songs were originally imported into iTunes. Before I can determine what needs to be done, I have to have the importing information on these songs.

Dec 26, 2005 8:26 PM in response to Teine88

Yes, they have to be in iTunes to make the conversion. This can't be done on the iPod. iTunes is really what manages the music on the iPod when it comes to importing, playlists, etc. If you start all over, make sure you have your import preferences set in the manner I suggested. It is also a good idea to keep you music on your computer as when you sync the iPod, the syncs function is to make the iPod a "mirror image" of the iTunes content. In other words, songs not in iTunes will be erased from iPod on the next sync. Also, one other suggestion for when you post, if you need to make an edition or edit a post in some manner, you can make a change within 30 minutes of the time of the post. This way you don't have to post repeatedly if you forget something. This also helps anyone who responds to you as every time you post anyone in the thread get e-mail notification of a new post. Please post back if you have any more questions. Happy Holidays!

Also, please don't forget to close your thread as solved & answered, if this applies.

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