PCIe Firewire Card requires Power Supply?

I recently got a SIIG 2-Port Firewire PCIe card for my Quad. It comes with a "Y" splitter that should be connected to a Power Supply. Does anyone know how this is supposed to be connected? I tried to install the card without it, but the system profiler doesn't detect the card. Thanks!

PowerMac G5 Quad, Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Posted on Dec 26, 2005 10:59 PM

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Dec 27, 2005 2:08 PM in response to Harry Frishberg

The card you mentioned does not draw power for the Firewire ports from the PCIe bus, instead, power is provided from an onboard 4 pin molex connector, the same type of power connector used on many IDE drives.

You can find a 4 pin molex power connector on the back of your DVD "superdrive" in your G5. You will need a Y power adapter, and a cable to run power to the card you installed. I would guess that the Y adapter came with the card, but you probably will need power cable with a four pin male molex connector on one end, and a 4 pin female molex connector on the other in order to reach the card.

You should be able to find these type of power cables at just about any store that sells computer hardware.

Tom N.

Dec 28, 2005 5:08 PM in response to EchoOut

Here's the card:

http://www.siig.com/product.asp?catid=1&pid=999

SIIG's support told me that I don't need the power supply and that I should move it to a different slot. I don't know much about PCIe, but the only open slot besides my two 4x slots is the 8x slot? Should I waste that much power on a small firewire card? Why didn't work on the 4x slot?

Thanks

Feb 6, 2006 4:18 PM in response to Harry Frishberg

I purchased the SIIG 3-port FireWire PCIe card, and connected its aux. power to my Superdrive power connector.

I have had no boot problems, but I always reset the nvram and the PRAM, then unplug the machine again for about 10 minutes every time I install a PCIe card in one of the dual-core Macs. Seems to avoid boot problems.

Maybe that made the difference, or maybe the 2-port card is just different somehow?

I do see lower throughput than the built-in FireWire ports, but that's a subject for a different forum topic. 😉

Feb 20, 2006 3:58 PM in response to RPM06

It's possible that you have a bad connector on your power splitter cable. Do you have a meter or continuity tester so that you can pull the cable out, and test that all 12 connectors work?

If the cable's seated properly into your DVD drive's power socket (in the middle of the cable), and one end is connected firmly to the power connector that used to go to the DVD drive, and the other is firmly attached to the card, you should be OK unless your cable is bad.

I also have had this card fail to be recognized intermittently. Sometimes unplugging the machine for a few minutes solves it. Other times I just work on the machine for a while, reboot, and it shows up then.

Since this card is being used successfully in so many PCs (or so I hear from SIIG), it may be an issue with the way the G5 implements PCIe. I wouldn't be surprised, as many of us are getting lower throughput with our FireWire 800 PCIe cards than we get via the built-in FW800 ports. Maybe there's an issue yet to be addressed.

Feb 21, 2006 2:49 PM in response to RPM06

I hope SIIG is offering to pay for the SuperDrive!

To reset the nvram, first boot into Open Firmware (hold down command + option + O + F as your computer starts up, then release when it tells you to 🙂, the type these three commands, followed by the RETURN key after each line:

reset-nvram
set-defaults
reset-all

After that last line, the machine reboots. You can then hold down command + option + P + R until you hear the startup chime a second time to ensure you have reset your PRAM.

Sometimes you also need to shut down and unplug your computer for a while to make the SIIG card show up. What a pain!

-- Steve

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