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So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

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  • Cal30m1 Calculating status...

    Remember the days when Apple TV commercials featured the cool young hip guy in jeans and the PC man was a stuffy old middle aged guy in a suit? those commercials certainly did NOT warn you that all the "fun" your Apple product gave you were predicated on reading a ton of legal warnings...Sounds like now, Apple is the Bully on the block stepping on baby chicks and blaiming the chicks...

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,860 points)

    Cal30m1 said, "no warning is given when you receive a notice about an updated app that may cease to work on your "ancient" 3 year old machine."

     

    I agree with you on the first part of this statement, if an update will not run on a particular device with a particular OS it should tell you that it won't work and it should not let you install it. Just like if you are trying to purchase a new app. But saying it here won't accomplish anything, you need to send it here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,860 points)

    Now you're just whining. That is advertising.

     

    Maybe Apple has made it too easy to use their products and people now think they have no reason to read the manual or learn anything about it. The consumer still has control over how they use or misuse their products.

  • Cal30m1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    By the way, my "negative comments" are not directed to you Airwa1k and solverWiz, just to the Apple Shills, who worship at the Alter of their Apple Cult. Imagine how much money Apple is making by forcing taxpayers to get an iPad, Mac Book, Air, etc, for every school child in the country? But to let some poor schmuck listen to TuneIn radio on his ancient 5 year old Touch, "Dont't you dare"!!!

     

    Unfortunately, other Bullies eventually went belly up by screwing the peasants...

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    SolverWiz wrote:

     

    Right.  Just like it is the responsiblity of each and every user of all ages and education level to spend time to fully read and understand all parts of the the (currently) 25 page terms and conditions agreement, each time it is periodically updated by Apple's legal team, before they click "Agree" so they can properly use the device they bought.

    Well, not exactly.  End users need to read the Terms And Conditions so they will know what Apple is and is not responsible for, and at the same time, that same document lets end users know what they are and are not responsible for.  To learn how to properly use a given device all one has to do is download and read the user manual.

     

    In summation, it is obvious that you and others like you did not read the Terms And Conditions, nor did you read the user manual, and as a result you have placed yourselves in an undefendable situation.

     

    FWIW, I would like to see Apple maintain support for legacy devices, but when you take into consideration that product support does not earn the company any money, how can you falut them for cutting their losses?  Even their long time rival Microsoft has dropped support for every thing from DOS 1.0 to Windows XP..

     

    The bottom line is, technology has moved on and its time you did too.

  • Cal30m1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    We don't have much control when the government is in bed with Apple. Yes, politics makes strange bedfellows. Does anyone care that almost every student in the entire county is now forced to use an Apple product? No choice, taxpayers fork out the money. Any drone who thinks he has to defend the billion dollar company against one customer wanting to use the Apps he paid for is pathetic...

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    deggie wrote:

     

    Cal30m1 said, "no warning is given when you receive a notice about an updated app that may cease to work on your "ancient" 3 year old machine."

     

    I agree with you on the first part of this statement, if an update will not run on a particular device with a particular OS it should tell you that it won't work and it should not let you install it. Just like if you are trying to purchase a new app. But saying it here won't accomplish anything, you need to send it here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html

    That  is not the issue.  The issue is someone wants to install a version of iOS that just will not run on a 2nd Gen.  In line with that fact, others are crying about loosing all of their "stuff" because they don't have any backups to restore from.

     

    Neither of these complaints will have any merit in a court of law.  Game Over....

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,860 points)

    I understand the issue. I also understand that apps can (and do) inform you that an update is available, you tap update all, and it installs them all. Then when you try to run the app, which has overwritten the previous version, it says it is not compatible with your device.

     

    I understand all about keeping versions on the computer, having backups, etc., etc. and I understand all the arguments here. But Apple is wrong and needs to change their update system so it will not allow an updated app to be installed on a device that cannot run that version. It makes no sense to allow this.

     

    I sent my feedback in about this sometime back. I'm not going to sue, whine or act the fool with moronic statements about the government being in bed with Apple, and every student having to use Apple (they wish). But he apparently got luck and did make one statement that made sense. But it is a waste of time to post it here, better to send it to feedback.

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    Cal30m1 wrote:

     

    We don't have much control when the government is in bed with Apple. Yes, politics makes strange bedfellows. Does anyone care that almost every student in the entire county is now forced to use an Apple product? No choice, taxpayers fork out the money. Any drone who thinks he has to defend the billion dollar company against one customer wanting to use the Apps he paid for is pathetic...

    So now Apple and the US Government are in collusion to addict the population to Apple devices.  And, I'm not a "drone" and I have never been a fan of Apple.  To tell you the truth, Apple devices have, in my opinion, all ways been over hyped, over priced, not easily expanded by end users, are are more of a status symbol to than any thing else.

     

    And, if you had kept at least one back up, your device would still be useful, so who's fault is that?

  • SolverWiz Level 1 Level 1 (110 points)

    Actually you are wrong.  I did read the terms and conditions.  I did read the manual.  I do make backups of apps and things reserving nearly 1TB to do so.  I just don't think very many others do this.

  • ezppl Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    " Apple is wrong and needs to change their update system so it will not allow an updated app to be installed on a device that cannot run that version. It makes no sense to allow this."

     

    This is the basic premise here, Apple bores. It's what's known as bad UX.

     

    This **** thread has been rolling along now for years(?!). I am tired of new bores filling my mailbox with crap. How do I sign off from this thread? I've tried several times. Maybe I missed something I the terms and conditions of this site...

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    ezppl wrote:

     

    " Apple is wrong and needs to change their update system so it will not allow an updated app to be installed on a device that cannot run that version. It makes no sense to allow this."

     

    This is the basic premise here, Apple bores. It's what's known as bad UX.

     

    This **** thread has been rolling along now for years(?!). I am tired of new bores filling my mailbox with crap. How do I sign off from this thread? I've tried several times. Maybe I missed something I the terms and conditions of this site...

    OK, I get it, every one is wrong and you are always right.  Typical for this generation... 

  • aletss Calculating status...

    I love this discussion I must say...

     

    cliftonfromrichmond you are right. we all must have a backup. Idk who said that avoid downloading the new version or at least ask if we want to download the newest version which wouldnt work for older versions, he is right too.

     

    Idk who said send feedback, I have done that... many times. It is like asking oil companies to low the oil price or Ask Monsanto to stop using OMGs... that wont happen coz they will lose money. As long as people consume the product "as it is" they wont actually change this small little tiny minuscule issue.

     

    The problem is that I trusted apple like I trust PC and i did not feel the need to have backups coz i though..." well the old versions should be out there right?? this is the internet!!" It was my mistake to asumme. And at the same time NASTY from Apple for doing this... but well who cares ?. Apple loveres ( i have had discussions of their economic model with friends ) will defend the system calling me cheap and will continue to glorify them and are eager to watch the new Jobs movie.

    Now my mission when people tells me "I am going to buy the new apple touch, iphone etc etc" is to explain them the apple business model and to save periodic backups of their stuff just in case...  Coz being honest, Apple Hardware is really good. I have no complains about the HARDWARE. My apple touch is like new, it works like charm after all these years of hard use.

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    Aletss:

     

    Another voice of reason.  Well said.

  • tripuppets Calculating status...

    Per the warranty and terms/conditions (itunes store included), there are specific sections that provide information on YOUR RESPONSIBLIITES, especially as a user of ANY electronic device it is well known each and every company will have a specific section of the sort.

     

    Read over them both again, there is even a point made by some companies in those same terms/conditions and warranty that if you are unable or unwilling to follow such responsibilities to return the device immediately for a full refund within a certain window of the purchase date. 

     

    If you did not read over those terms/conditions and straight out just agreed...you have only left yourself open and ignorant. I, however do understand the rants...it is sad.

     

    Perfect example, check into this: (I know its old, but proves a little bit of a point) - http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/04/15/online-shoppers-unknowingly-sold-souls/

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