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Q: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

iPod touch, iOS 4.2

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 9:41 AM

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Q: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

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  • by ZWL9,

    ZWL9 ZWL9 Nov 18, 2012 11:30 PM in response to zoonred
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    Nov 18, 2012 11:30 PM in response to zoonred

    OK I feel cheated!!

    Got the ipod as a 3RD GENERATION at cosco and didnt even know it was a 2ND GENERATION until it wouldnt update!! So basically i paid for a 3rd gen and got a 2nd gen! How is that at all fair??? Without the update it is not possible to get a majority of apps!!!! Including INSTAGRAM!!

    At the very least stuff like that should be available.

    And, even if the newer updates involve camera and mic stuff....Y IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM COMPATABLE WITH THE SECOND GEN!!!!

    THE MESSAGE APPLE IS BASICALLY SENDING IS" IF U DONT BUY OUR NEWEST PRODUCTS WE WILL FORCE YOU TO BY TAKING AWAY WHAT IT CAN DO"

    DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL CHEATED, TRICKED, AND JIPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • by cliftonfromrichmond,

    cliftonfromrichmond cliftonfromrichmond Nov 19, 2012 6:20 AM in response to ZWL9
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    Nov 19, 2012 6:20 AM in response to ZWL9

    ZWL9 wrote:

     

    OK I feel cheated!!

    Got the ipod as a 3RD GENERATION at cosco and didnt even know it was a 2ND GENERATION until it wouldnt update!! So basically i paid for a 3rd gen and got a 2nd gen! How is that at all fair??? Without the update it is not possible to get a majority of apps!!!! Including INSTAGRAM!!

    At the very least stuff like that should be available.

    And, even if the newer updates involve camera and mic stuff....Y IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM COMPATABLE WITH THE SECOND GEN!!!!

    THE MESSAGE APPLE IS BASICALLY SENDING IS" IF U DONT BUY OUR NEWEST PRODUCTS WE WILL FORCE YOU TO BY TAKING AWAY WHAT IT CAN DO"

    DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL CHEATED, TRICKED, AND JIPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If the packaging says its a 3rd gen, if your receipt says its a 3rd gen,  and if the store display said it was a 3rd gen, then you have grounds for full refund.

     

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  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Nov 19, 2012 7:56 AM in response to ZWL9
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    Nov 19, 2012 7:56 AM in response to ZWL9

    That would be an issue with the retailer. Nothing has been taken away, apps that require newer OS rely on features that rely on the newer hardware. The 2nd gen doesn't have a camera

  • by ezppl,

    ezppl ezppl Nov 19, 2012 8:13 AM in response to vazandrew
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:13 AM in response to vazandrew

    Vazandrew - you're missing the important point here (ignore the fact that ZWL9 has had a bad retail experience). The point is that the OS is being broken by a bad update procedure (as outlined by TheParent in post on 18th Nov) - no 2nd gen iPod user wants to lose functionality of some apps! There should have been a simple pop up explaining that certain apps would fail to work upon update. That has not happened. And it's impossible to roll back to previous working versions it seems. And that is wrong dammit!

     

    Significantly, rather than building a loyal user base (early adopters), this is making people like me - who have been using Apple products for many years - move away from Apple. They are creating unneccessary ambient hardware waste due to a poorly executed set of update procedures.

     

    I've had it with this discussion now. In fact I don't own even my iPod any more - someone stole it! Pity for me the .me FindMyIPod service was pulled (it helped me locate it many times previously) and my iPod couldn't use iCloud's identical service because it's wasn't up to it - heh. Pity for them they won't be able to get much use from it any more - heh.

  • by Home Button,

    Home Button Home Button Nov 19, 2012 9:15 AM in response to ZWL9
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    Nov 19, 2012 9:15 AM in response to ZWL9

    8GB 3rd generation is a repackaged 2nd generation. 32 and 64gb 3rd generations are legit 3rd generation iPod Touches.

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Nov 19, 2012 10:46 AM in response to ezppl
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    Nov 19, 2012 10:46 AM in response to ezppl

    The hardware cannot support any further updates. This is not limited to Apple, technology evolves. Requirements are always listed and one can roll back to earlier version of app(s) if a backup had been done

     

    The answer has been given, if you want to rant there are other forums for that

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Nov 19, 2012 10:48 AM in response to Home Button
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    Nov 19, 2012 10:48 AM in response to Home Button

    Apple never released an 8GB 3rd gen device

  • by technoguy100,

    technoguy100 technoguy100 Nov 23, 2012 12:02 PM in response to zoonred
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    Nov 23, 2012 12:02 PM in response to zoonred

    How can I sync my iPad up to my iPod?

    Its possible I know because my friend did it.

     

    Otherwise how do I update my iPod 3rd Gen to iOS 4.3

    iTunes does not work because it says its updated fully and its on 4.2.1

     

     

    Can you help me?

  • by cliftonfromrichmond,

    cliftonfromrichmond cliftonfromrichmond Nov 23, 2012 12:26 PM in response to technoguy100
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    Nov 23, 2012 12:26 PM in response to technoguy100

    technoguy100 wrote:

     

    How can I sync my iPad up to my iPod?

    Its possible I know because my friend did it.

     

    Otherwise how do I update my iPod 3rd Gen to iOS 4.3

    iTunes does not work because it says its updated fully and its on 4.2.1

     

     

    Can you help me?

    You cannot synch an iPad to an iPod.  What you can do is synch your iPad and your iPod to the same library that is on your Mac/PC, provided the library is not too big...

     

    If your iPod will not update past 4.2.1, then its not a 3rd Gen, its a 2nd Gen.  I'd bet its only 8 gig too...

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Nov 23, 2012 2:10 PM in response to ezppl
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    Nov 23, 2012 2:10 PM in response to ezppl

    ezppl wrote:

     

    There should have been a simple pop up explaining that certain apps would fail to work upon update. That has not happened. And it's impossible to roll back to previous working versions it seems. And that is wrong dammit!

    And that is what everyone should be concentrating on! That's the message that Apple need to get, because otherwise, long term, this happens...

     

    ezppl wrote:

     

    Significantly, rather than building a loyal user base (early adopters), this is making people like me - who have been using Apple products for many years - move away from Apple. They are creating unneccessary ambient hardware waste due to a poorly executed set of update procedures.

    .. and ezppl is correct, the procedure is poorly executed.

  • by waltersdan74,

    waltersdan74 waltersdan74 Nov 30, 2012 5:29 PM in response to mkwilkie
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    Nov 30, 2012 5:29 PM in response to mkwilkie

    actually you can get a virus on a mac because that is what malware does so make sure u kno what ur talking about mr cocky malware destroys antivirus systems and oc. i learned the hard way

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Nov 30, 2012 6:36 PM in response to waltersdan74
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    Nov 30, 2012 6:36 PM in response to waltersdan74

    That of which you speak is not the same as a virus and requires the user to actually install

  • by ybz,

    ybz ybz Dec 3, 2012 11:13 AM in response to zoonred
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    Dec 3, 2012 11:13 AM in response to zoonred

    i agree, this is a bunch of crap dealing with apple's apples marketing scheme - they just focus on re-inventing the wheel each time they release a new product every 6 months and dont offer support after a couple of years.

     

    i am a long time apple user and now it seems they are all about getting bigger, not better.

     

    i just got a new mini and right out of the box it had a smudge on the screen. after waiting a month to get one, and then waiting in line for who knows how long - after going to the store one of the manager was acting like it was my fault. 

     

    instead of waisting so much time and money on adverstising a products u cant keep in stock why dont u make more and pay the people more $ & give them more time to make it!

     

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  • by pacolactico,

    pacolactico pacolactico Dec 13, 2012 9:12 PM in response to zoonred
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    Dec 13, 2012 9:12 PM in response to zoonred

    Picture if you were to update Windows or Linux, only if you have the newest Pc of the year. Imagine for the moment that if you have a pc with only windows XP or Vista and you could install the new app or programs just for windows 7 or 8. Well that exactly is what apple is doing to consumers.

     

    Let’s just not try to denied, what is all true, don’t try to fool you’re self, apple is all for the money and they want their products to only exist the amount of time they want. I’m engineer on computer systems and I know that they could develop updates for all of their line of products; they don’t do that, it’s better for them just to update their last product on the market, just because that way obligate you to buy the next big thing. I repeat you can make one update for all of your products just the way Microsoft keep give updates for all their OS, Sony, Samsung, and Nintendo all of them update this way.

     

    This comes with a big cost; it’s very expensive for a company to address this way the problem, but normally all companies do.  Apple doesn’t care if you’re first, second or third generation of devices are now dead, they want you to get rid of them and buy a new one. That’s apple goal, and you can surf the web and there are millions hundreds of people that know this. Is just a big nuisance, Apple is known for creating a very strong and compelling line of consumer products.

     

    Their products are very well built and have a great amount of technology and they are the best on that department.  That we all can agree on. But at the same time is not committing to support the devices they make for longer than a year or two. That is a big shame, not because they are doing thing wrong, but because this is there strategy of marketing and sales. They just want you to buy every year iPod, Ipad and so. This is a big win for them but where this let the consumers. So next time you buy apple product remember this. I am from Mexico and my English is terrible but I thing I made my point. I’m just trying to help people to make their best decision for the future.

  • by AnimusExnihilo,

    AnimusExnihilo AnimusExnihilo Dec 18, 2012 7:36 AM in response to TheParent
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    Dec 18, 2012 7:36 AM in response to TheParent

    I agree that allowing your apps to update to an OS that your device doesn't support is bogus. Especially in regards to resetting to fix a lockup problem. For my own sanity I'll choose to believe this was simply an accident on apples part and not some sort of back-handed way of forcing users to buy a newer product. It might even be a flaw in the way the app-store functions, and the companies that developed the apps needed to include the code to prevent this on there end. Either way I'd liken it to that situation were NASA crashed an observation satellite into some Jovian mass or whatever because they failed to notice they were using data figured in metric instead of the English standard. Even smart people (especially smart people) are prone to overlooking simple problems.

     

    Anyway, solutions. Download a program like iFunbox onto your desktop/laptop computer. This will allow you to backup your apps in there current version and reinstall them in there non-updated format. It will even work on non-jailbroxen devices provided they are apps you bought. Of course this will only work if you backed the app up before the upgrade that eliminated it from existing on your device.

     

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