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  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Heck, my original experience with FreeHand was back when Aldus was the publisher.

     

     

    And I still miss Aldus Pagemaker from before Adobe got their nasty little hands on it.

    I never got comfortable with PM.  My preference was Quark XPress.

    I guess it depends where you start, I used Pagemaker for so long that I could operate it with the monitor switched off, Quark did everything some other way and I was always in a hurry then

     

    I'm so old that my first computer had strings & beads, but was very 'Green'

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    Actually, I like Adobe.  They do make some nice products.  I'm real happy with Photoshop CS.  Lightroom is also pretty good but Nikon's Capture NX2 is better with Nikon images.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Actually, I like Adobe.  They do make some nice products.  I'm real happy with Photoshop CS.  Lightroom is also pretty good but Nikon's Capture NX2 is better with Nikon images.

    It's not so much the products as the attitude over by there, I use CS5, and it does all I need it to, but if I ever need support of any kind from Adobe it's a bad day.

     

    But let's not forget Reader & Flash, ugh.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Heck, my original experience with FreeHand was back when Aldus was the publisher.

     

     

    And I still miss Aldus Pagemaker from before Adobe got their nasty little hands on it.

    I never got comfortable with PM.  My preference was Quark XPress.

    I guess it depends where you start, I used Pagemaker for so long that I could operate it with the monitor switched off, Quark did everything some other way and I was always in a hurry then

     

    I'm so old that my first computer had strings & beads, but was very 'Green'

    I agree.  I started with Quark and had the same problem that you had but in the opposite direction.

     

    Your strings & beads are humor but I still have my first comptuter.  It's a K&E (Keuffel & Esser) model "Log-Log Duplex DeciTrig."  (Look it up if you're not familiar with the semantics.)  In fact, I showed it to some grade school students today.  I worked on the Apollo moon landing program and I now volunteer to give school presentations.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Heck, my original experience with FreeHand was back when Aldus was the publisher.

     

     

    And I still miss Aldus Pagemaker from before Adobe got their nasty little hands on it.

    I never got comfortable with PM.  My preference was Quark XPress.

    I guess it depends where you start, I used Pagemaker for so long that I could operate it with the monitor switched off, Quark did everything some other way and I was always in a hurry then

     

    I'm so old that my first computer had strings & beads, but was very 'Green'

    I agree.  I started with Quark and had the same problem that you had but in the opposite direction.

     

    Your strings & beads are humor but I still have my first comptuter.  It's a K&E (Keuffel & Esser) model "Log-Log Duplex DeciTrig."  (Look it up if you're not familiar with the semantics.)  In fact, I showed it to some grade school students today.  I worked on the Apollo moon landing program and I now volunteer to give school presentations.

    Oh that , I eat at Jim Lovells restaurant occasionally, they won't let me put the spacesuit on though, no matter how much I tip.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Actually, I like Adobe.  They do make some nice products.  I'm real happy with Photoshop CS.  Lightroom is also pretty good but Nikon's Capture NX2 is better with Nikon images.

    It's not so much the products as the attitude over by there, I use CS5, and it does all I need it to, but if I ever need support of any kind from Adobe it's a bad day.

     

    But let's not forget Reader & Flash, ugh.

    Actually, I like Reader and the Acrobat concept.  It began life as the only way possible for Macs to read MS-DOS files and vice-versa.  It's still the best way to make a file viewable by anyone.

     

    Flash doesn't bother me.  I'm retired and I don't have a laptop anymore so I don't see the heat and battery issues and I've never noticed the resource hogging problem.  As far as I'm concerned, the only important thing is that Flash is not supported by IOS devices and never will be.  If anyone absolutely positively needs to view web contact that's available only via Flash (as I did last year), the solution is simple - use a real computer.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Heck, my original experience with FreeHand was back when Aldus was the publisher.

     

     

    And I still miss Aldus Pagemaker from before Adobe got their nasty little hands on it.

    I never got comfortable with PM.  My preference was Quark XPress.

    I guess it depends where you start, I used Pagemaker for so long that I could operate it with the monitor switched off, Quark did everything some other way and I was always in a hurry then

     

    I'm so old that my first computer had strings & beads, but was very 'Green'

    I agree.  I started with Quark and had the same problem that you had but in the opposite direction.

     

    Your strings & beads are humor but I still have my first comptuter.  It's a K&E (Keuffel & Esser) model "Log-Log Duplex DeciTrig."  (Look it up if you're not familiar with the semantics.)  In fact, I showed it to some grade school students today.  I worked on the Apollo moon landing program and I now volunteer to give school presentations.

    Oh that , I eat at Jim Lovells restaurant occasionally, they won't let me put the spacesuit on though, no matter how much I tip.

    I left the program in January 1970 and went to work for RCA testing spy satellites.  On April 17, 1970 (a Friday), I was working night shift and still did not have a date for the upcoming office party the next night.  I snuck out of work early, betting a technician $10 that I'd show up with a date.  Well, the 17th was the day that the Apollo-13 crew returned safely and finally there was something to talk about in the pickup joints.

     

    I met this beautiful young lady and she mentioned the "13" landing.  I naturally responded that I had tested the LM that was used to bring them home.  She accepted the date with me to prove that I was a BS artist.  We were married exactly a year later and I can now honestly say that I took my wife out the first time on a bet and she can honestly say that she always believed me to be a BS artist!

  • Compukid Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    This discussion has lived to be 101 pages! Not a good thing. It's like a forest. You know how they're supposed to burn the forest every 5 years? The hosts have some work to do.

  • Compukid Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    I have been here for a year, and this is the second longest discussion I've seen. The longest was an anti-virus on the iPad. I don't want to even think about looking at that one.

  • bk452 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    "It's a K&E (Keuffel & Esser) model "Log-Log Duplex DeciTrig."

     

    Memories . I still have mine. Doesn't need batteries. Any ideas on how to gease her up?

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    bk452 wrote:

     

    "It's a K&E (Keuffel & Esser) model "Log-Log Duplex DeciTrig."

     

    Memories . I still have mine. Doesn't need batteries. Any ideas on how to gease her up?

    Same way that we always did - talcum powder.

     

    When HP introduced the HP35 calculater in 1972, I jumped on it.  I instantly put my slide rule down and haven't used it since.  The only time that it sees the light of day today is for the Apollo presentations.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (78,015 points)

    "I have been here for a year, and this is the second longest discussion I've seen."

     

    iPhone 4S battery life -> https://discussions.apple.com/message/18161725#18161725

    813 pages, 12,188 posts

  • bk452 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    BTW, you guys did an outstanding job in the space program!! You should be very, very proud.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,835 points)

    bk452 wrote:

     

    BTW, you guys did an outstanding job in the space program!! You should be very, very proud.

    Thank you.  I am very, very proud!

  • Pinemtnman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You can get flash with the paid version of puffin browser in the app store