Ed Contaldi
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Q: Get eMac to run in Classic Mode without system disks?

I purchased an eMac G4, off the Internet, with 10.4.11 installed. I received no system disks with that computer. Unfortunately, I found that it does not run in Classic Mode. I understand that eMacs came with their own specific system disks--I have a copy of a 9.2 system disk. Is there a way to install the files necessary to run in Classic Mode without acquiring the eMac-specific system disks (if they are even available) for the purpose?

 

Another problem: While following some bad advice, I dragged the system folder from the 9.2 disk onto my eMac's desktop. As you can guess, it was unsuccessful in getting it to run in Classic Mode. When I tried to drag this system folder to the Trash, I would get a message that said it could not be placed in the Trash because it was in use. I attempted to rename the folder, but still received the same message.

 

HOW CAN I GET THIS FOLDER OFF THE DAMNED COMPUTER???

eMac G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Apr 26, 2011 7:31 PM

by roam,Solvedanswer
roam roam
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A:

Copying the System folder only works if it has already been installed by the OS X installation,  but it is actually Classic, the OS 9 emulator used in OS X.

 

Your eMac can't boot into OS 9, nor into the OS 9 CD nor install OS 9. You need the original OS X disks and install Classic that way using the Restore option.

The second method is to find a Mac running OS X that has Classic installed and copy that folder. This is what you were trying to do.

 

Not having the disks, either upgrade or the original is often dismissed as unimportant when getting an old Mac but the disks permit useful functions such as reinstallation of software and maintenance, and they are frustratingly missed come a blue moon.

 

As for deleting that OS 9 folder, your Tiger OS has become confused but I'm not sure how to untangle things. If the OS thinks it is being used, there are technical tips about that in the following link, about half way down.

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Posted on Apr 27, 2011 1:54 AM

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  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jul 15, 2012 9:17 PM in response to roam
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    Jul 15, 2012 9:17 PM in response to roam

    Hey, thanks, that's a cool little App I've never heard of before... trying it now!

  • by roam,

    roam roam Jul 15, 2012 9:22 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Jul 15, 2012 9:22 PM in response to BDAqua

    Yes, and a good price too.   compared to its competitors.

    Just a not of caution. Do prescribe it to find files of a decent size say 100K, else it will uncover a zillion deleted 4K web artifacts. Unless you want to see them too.

  • by Ed Contaldi,

    Ed Contaldi Ed Contaldi Jul 16, 2012 2:19 PM in response to roam
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    Jul 16, 2012 2:19 PM in response to roam

    The scenario that you desribed with the Burn Folder sounds quite possible.

    The files are not in the Trash and don't show up when I use the Find command. The eMac does not have Internet access now. It seems like the easiest way to get on the Internet to get the cleverfiles program would be to hook the eMac into the network hub in my house using an Ethernet cable. Does this sound right? 

    I was backing up the .band files because I wanna install system 10.4.4 from the disks I  just bought. Getting cleverfiles might be a little time consuming. How risky is it for me to install the system without having backed up the .band files?

  • by roam,

    roam roam Jul 16, 2012 3:43 PM in response to Ed Contaldi
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    Jul 16, 2012 3:43 PM in response to Ed Contaldi

    Hi Ed. If the .band files have been accidentally deleted, and they seem lost because you have had a look and can't find them, doing any upgrade isn't going to get them back.

    Wait until you can get a copy of that software and see if it can find them and undelete them. Also be aware that

    the more you use your computer the less chance there is of file recovery.

  • by Ed Contaldi,

    Ed Contaldi Ed Contaldi Jul 17, 2012 4:49 PM in response to roam
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    Jul 17, 2012 4:49 PM in response to roam

    Hey Roam,

     

    The eMac does not have Internet access now. It seems like the easiest way to get on the Internet to get the cleverfiles program would be to hook the eMac into the network hub in my house using an Ethernet cable. Does this sound right?

     

    Another Internet question:  I work on a Mac Pro that at times has very slow Internet access using Safari.  I'm still running 10.4.4 because I use some old music programs that my school won't pay to update.  I thought maybe using Firefox instead of Safari might speed up my wait time on things loading on You Tube, but 10.4.4 can only support Firefox 3.5.  Mozilla's site says that they no longer support 3.5, which I presume means that they don't update it re: viruses, etc.  However, I would only be using Firefox about 30 minutes a week for You Tube watching with a student.  How risky does it sound to use Firefox 3.5 for 30 min. a week re: viruses?  I guess I could beef up my virus protection.  What would you suggest for a good free virus protection program?

  • by roam,

    roam roam Jul 17, 2012 9:38 PM in response to Ed Contaldi
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:38 PM in response to Ed Contaldi

    Hi Ed

    Ed Contaldi wrote:

    How risky does it sound to use Firefox 3.5 for 30 min. a week re: viruses?  I guess I could beef up my virus protection.  What would you suggest for a good free virus protection program?

    Using Firefox 3.5 in that circumstance would be fine. The problem is not actually with viruses per se, but malware in general, so I wouldn't bother running an anti-virus program. Malware affecting Macs is out there but I'd still rate it as 'rare' compared to running an unprotected Windows machine which I believe get infected instantly!

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