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R C-R Level 6 (17,400 points)

In the new discussion & reply editor, every tool in the toolbar highlights whenever the pointer is placed over it. This is not desirable because several tools that toggle features on & off also use the same highlighting to indicate their on or off status.


The problem with this is that if one turns on or off a toggling tool, there is no indication that its status has changed until the pointer is moved off the tool.


For example, if the spellchecker is turned on & I want to turn it off, clicking the tool gives me no immediate indication that I have done so. And since there is a brief (& sometimes not so brief) delay before the editor window shows the change, I might be tempted to click the tool again because I thought the first click was not recognized. The result is I have toggled the tool off & then back on again, so it seems as if the tool won't turn off.


The same problem can occur with the text style tools, for instance when trying to remove bolding from a highlighted word or phrase.


There are several solutions for this but I think the simplest & most intuitive is simply not to have the tools highlight when the pointer is over them. To indicate that they perform actions, the pointer could change from an arrow icon to the pointing finger one, just like they do elsewhere in the UI for things like the "Your Stuff" item at the top of the page. Highlighting should be reserved for status indication.

  • Tuttle Level 7 (29,470 points)

    Agree that the TinyMCE implentation isn't the best, but it's at its worst when I've tried to:


    Type format type spellcheck format type format spellcheck type format type spellcheck format ...


    Best solution:


    Type > Spell Check > Format > Add Reply




    Type > Format > Spell Check > Add Reply


    I think one is bound to get confused and frustrated toggling things on and off as they go.

  • R C-R Level 6 (17,400 points)

    Tuttle wrote:

    I think one is bound to get confused and frustrated toggling things on and off as they go.

    That may be true but it is only because the UI uses highlighting for two different things on the editor toolbar, one of them amounting to unnecessary eye candy, at least for pointer driven interfaces. I don't know that much about TinyMCE but it is an Open Source Software Project so it should be possible to change this behavior.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,551 points)

    The highlighting doesn't bother me but the fact that the Post Message button of the Advanced Editor doesn't when you use it to post the message does.  There's not indication that you've clicked on the button until the message is posted and that sometimes takes longer than expected. 


    And the spelling feature is rather useless IMO as it doesn't offer corrections like Safari's spell checker does. 


  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,286 points)

    Mostly agree, the way it is would seem a bit confusing to many I guess.

  • Baby Boomer (USofA) Level 9 (57,297 points)

    Instead of 3 editors

    1 - basic - option to use html

    2 - advanced - option to use html

    3 - html


    Just have 2

    1 - advanced-option to use html

    2 - html


    The advanced editor is both basic & advanced bundled.














  • R C-R Level 6 (17,400 points)

    Old Toad wrote:

    And the spelling feature is rather useless IMO as it doesn't offer corrections like Safari's spell checker does.

    Not that I am in any way defending the rather lame by comparison spell checker built into ASC (which I guess is actually built into the TinyMCE editor Tuttle mentioned earlier), but it does offer corrections, for instance as shown below:


    Screen shot 2011-04-28 at Apr28 3.59.54 PM.png


    Are you sure you have it turned on (highlighted icon) & are 'left' (normal) clicking on the word with the wavy red underline to show its suggestions?

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,551 points)

    You're right.  It wasn't apparent that we had to left click on the word to bring up the spelling options.  But it's there.  Thanks.

  • R C-R Level 6 (17,400 points)

    Old Toad wrote:

    But it's there.

    It is there but it is vastly inferior to the OS X spell checker. For example, it marks 'abc' (with the single quotes) as a misspelling & suggests "ac" (with no quotes at all) as one of the possible replacements. It has no "learn spelling" option. It is quirky if toggled off & on: in the example I provided it marked ASC as a misspelling but it did not do so here until I toggled it off & back on.


    Once someone explained to me that the OS X contextual menu could always be invoked with a control click (but not necessarily with a right click), I have not bothered to turn on the ASC checker except for tests.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,551 points)

    I much prefer the Safari editor and it's ease of opening (Command+Shift+;).

  • ~Bee Level 7 (31,425 points)

    Can anyone tell me how to find this "Advanced Editor."

    I have spent way too much time trying to figure out where it is.

    I have "My Products" filled out and  chosen to show, but apparently the lack of this editor is keeping it from being shown.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,551 points)

    It at the upper right hand corner of the first edit mode you get to:


  • ~Bee Level 7 (31,425 points)

    This is aabsolutely crazy!

    I went to my Profile, selected "Edit Products" and there is no Advanced editor there.

    So I took a screen shot, and guess what's on the top of the screen shot?????

    It is NOT on the page!Screen shot 2011-04-28 at 7.16.47 PM.png

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,551 points)

    I'm referring to the editor for posts like here. 


    Click to view full size

  • ~Bee Level 7 (31,425 points)

    OK, Sir Toad . . .

    Can you, or anyone else, give me the steps for using the Advanced freakin Editor so that "My Products" will show up every time?  Actually, I see that most of the posts here have no specs noted.  Maybe I should just forget about it.

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