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  • nsfw Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I always thought HBOGo was blocking AirPlay mirroing because they didn't want people to use it on a regular TV, but now I can't explain it as the Roku and now the xbox can do it.

    Now its just starting to smell like Apple doesn't want to cannabilize their iTunes revenue so they forced the block..?

     

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/27/2905871/comcast-xfinity-hbo-go-mlb-tv-xbox-360 -release-date

  • philliprodo Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    nsfw wrote:

     

    Now its just starting to smell like Apple doesn't want to cannabilize their iTunes revenue so they forced the block..?

     

    Yep, my point exactly. Why would HBO care whether you're able to project their contents on a large TV, when they require you to have a cable subscription before you can access the content on HBO.Go?

     

    Also, on the Roku, movies from Amazon are usually cheaper than the price for the same movies on iTunes. I guess, that also means that we'll never see an app from Amazon to run on Apple devices...

     

    What a racket...

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,330 points)

    It's also possible that HBO has a financial deal with Roku and Xbox.

     

    Interesting that the HBO-GO FAQs acknowledge the limitation and add that they're working on a solution.  Perhaps the solution is a financial deal?

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,330 points)

    philliprodo wrote:

     

    nsfw wrote:

     

    Now its just starting to smell like Apple doesn't want to cannabilize their iTunes revenue so they forced the block..?

     

    Yep, my point exactly. Why would HBO care whether you're able to project their contents on a large TV, when they require you to have a cable subscription before you can access the content on HBO.Go?

     

    Also, on the Roku, movies from Amazon are usually cheaper than the price for the same movies on iTunes. I guess, that also means that we'll never see an app from Amazon to run on Apple devices...

     

    What a racket...

    Then explain why the Apple TV has a Netflix app.  Also explain why Crackle movies obtained at no cost on my iPod and my iPad will play on the Apple TV.

  • philliprodo Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Then explain why the Apple TV has a Netflix app.  Also explain why Crackle movies obtained at no cost on my iPod and my iPad will play on the Apple TV.

     

    Easy.In the beginning, Apple may have thought that they needed Netflix as an alternative app to attract new customers. That was when Netflix could do nothing wrong and included in its library decent movies. Unfortunately, Netflix has now been reduced to having only older movies or movies that no one has ever heard of. Same with Crakle--Apple doesn't seem them as a competing threat any more. 

     

    HBO shows for free (well, kind of free if you already subscribe through your cable provider) all their series, plus relatively newer movies. Apple sells or rents some of the HBO series or the movies shown on HBO, so HBO.Go is a direct competitor. If it was HBO that's restricting rebroadcasting on a large TV through the AppleTV or tethering via HDMI or Component cables, explain why is HBO allowing their content to be projected on TVs via the Roku and now Xbox?

     

    Apple wants to sell or rent movies and TV shows through iTunes that are popular new releases. That's why you'll also never see an app from Amazon running on Apple devices that accesses Amazon's vast and usually cheaper online video library.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    philliprodo wrote:

     

    Better yet, try this URL, as it will take you directly to the ad I'm referring in YouTube.

     

    http://tinyurl.com/2cwel3

    Hey Philli

    The link CLEARLY shows the first ATV with a hard drive. Different theory of operation.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    philliprodo wrote:

     

    The problem is that you don't usually find out about these sorts of "got you" details until after you bought the product. If you can send to the AppleTV wirelessly just about everything else, why would an unsuspecting buyer even have reason to think that this isn't the case with HBO.Go?

     

    Hey Phillie    

    Apple has no iron in the fire whether HBO Go works as you want it to.  The HBO Go app is from guess who, HBO!

     

    And for now, if you want your HBO content on your TV, use the HDMI setup and mirror it over. 

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    philliprodo wrote:

     

    As I pointed out previously, that's not the case, as the HBO.Go app for the Roku allows you to project their entire library content on your TV in HD. There's something going on between Apple and HBO that doesn't pass the smell test. And that's not whining, it's a fact...

    And how to you slide the HBO content over to your TV?  Wirelessly or cable?  And what smell test?  The only thing that smells is your false accusations about something going on between Apple and HBO. As previously pointed out, go the HDMI route from your computer to your TV (mirror) and you will be in business.

     

    Re the HBO Go App and the IP/iPad, blame that not working as far as the ablility to AirPlay, strictly to HBO. 

     

    ONCE AGAIN, PHILLIE, APPLE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROBLEM.

  • nsfw Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    HDMI from my computer to my TV. Thats the worst idea i've heard.  Its not even a conversation starter.  I don't have an Apple TV and iPad so I can hook up my computer to my TV.  ( I won't even mention that my computer isn't in the same room or that I used to have a mac mini hooked up to my tv and starting web apps was a crap solution..i.e. espn3, hulu etc..)

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    nsfw wrote:

     

    I always thought HBOGo was blocking AirPlay mirroing because they didn't want people to use it on a regular TV, but now I can't explain it as the Roku and now the xbox can do it.

     

    Mirroring and AirPlay are two completely different methods.  At the moment, there is NO AirPlay from Apple computers.  It only works from mobile devices (IP, iPad etc).

     

    And the App written by HBO does not allow Airplay to work.  HBO says they are working on it, but only time will tell.

     

    In the meantime cabling (HDMI) along with mirroring from an Apple computer does allow HBO Go.  Works fine on my MBA.

     

    I don't know how Roku or xBox works, but I assume they get the HBO Go signal either wired or via WiFi and then are connected via cable to your TV.  Hey, that sounds exactly like the same routing that Apple uses with mirroring.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Then explain why the Apple TV has a Netflix app.  Also explain why Crackle movies obtained at no cost on my iPod and my iPad will play on the Apple TV.

    I don't think NetFlix is an app and can better be described as a service that is plumbed into ATV for a subscription fee.  I don't know what's so hard for you to grasp about the HBO Go App in regards to mobile devices.  HBO wrote the app to precluded using it to AirPlay. I really think they are worried about "freeloaders".  

     

    I'm not sure how Crackle works, but a quick look at their content would appear that it may cause brain damage if viewed in excess.  Certainly NO comparison to the GOOD stuff from HBO.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    nsfw wrote:

     

    HDMI from my computer to my TV. Thats the worst idea i've heard.  Its not even a conversation starter.  I don't have an Apple TV and iPad so I can hook up my computer to my TV.  ( I won't even mention that my computer isn't in the same room or that I used to have a mac mini hooked up to my tv and starting web apps was a crap solution..i.e. espn3, hulu etc..)

    Perhaps I should have said laptop.  I assumed no one would consider dragging a desktop into their livingroom when they wanted to connect online video to the TV.

     

    FYI, this method DOESN'T require an ATV.  Straight HDMI. I think HBO is worried about theft of service.  With HBO Go, all you need is a friend who will give you his login information and a person can freeload HBO content until they gag.  HBO can not control HDMI signal routing, but they can control/prevent AirPlay piping to a big screen monitor.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Then explain why the Apple TV has a Netflix app.  Also explain why Crackle movies obtained at no cost on my iPod and my iPad will play on the Apple TV.

    Just checked the Crackle App out. Mostly garbage content verses what is available on HBO Go.  Also, I don't remember seeing commericals every 8-10 minutes when watching HBO unlike a quick scan of some Crackle video.  Crackle is Hulu.  That said, if you don't mind the commerials that you can't fast forward through, the price is right. 

     

    But to compare HBO Go to Crackle is an "apples to oranges" deal. 

  • nsfw Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Looks like my post was deleted, so let me try to reframe this:

     

    >And the App written by HBO does not allow Airplay to work.  HBO says they are working on it, but only time will tell.

     

    There was a time when HBOGo and HDMI out from the ipad/iphone worked. Its not a technical issue. Airplay works with other apps. Unfortunately, it looks like I can't tell you more about how I know it just works.

  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)

    nsfw wrote:

     

    There was a time when HBOGo and HDMI out from the ipad/iphone worked. Its not a technical issue. Airplay works with other apps.

    So, are you implying that perhaps with the iOS 5.1 upgrade, Apple is now not only preventing IP/iPad AirPlay, but also IP/iPad HDMI play in regards to HBO Go?

     

    Or maybe it is simply that the HBO Go App was changed in a App upgrade to prevent access via HDMI. Re AirPlay, that's an entirely different method for transfering video to a HD screen and requires an ATV2 or 3.

     

    Note that HDMI output works fine from my MBA although there is some Mickey Mouse cabling required.  I used it one in a blue moon.

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