10 Replies Latest reply: Jan 8, 2006 11:16 AM by macjack
El Presidente Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
A friend of mine has offered to lend me a copy of his Norton AntiVirus version 10. My question is, is it worth it? i owned version 9 on my previous 12" PB and it was even a nightmare keeping it at arms lenght but i'm thinking maybe they improved version 10 any ideas?

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  • matthew whiting Level 4 Level 4 (3,375 points)
    Hi

    Firstly, only use software legally.

    Secondly, No it's not worth it because it does not protect your Mac from anything that can harm it. It can potentially do harm itself.

    Thirdly, try asking the question on only one forum. Multiple posts means that you make people respond unnecessarily.

    Matthew Whiting
  • El Presidente Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
    Thanx,

    technically its legal since he's allowed to use it on a certain number of computers (mine included) cos he bought my laptop for me.

    i reposted because i thought it was more a tiger forum question than a powerbook question and by the time i realised i could'nt unmark the question again.
  • El Presidente Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
    I'm leaving the tiger version opened
  • matthew whiting Level 4 Level 4 (3,375 points)
    You're welcome, no problem and good luck!

    Matthew Whiting
  • DPSG-Scout Level 4 Level 4 (1,135 points)
    You could always reply to your own question and give others a hint where you've moved it.

    Antivirus is an old topic. To make it short, there is not a single Mac OS X virus out there. Windows viruses can't do any harm unless you're using Virtual PC. I'm sure, that if there's ever going to be a virus, you'll be hearing about it everywhere so you could still unplug your computer from the internet and hope for someone to come up with a solution. Antivirus software can only protect you against known threads and I doubt you have a working update for Norton or similar installed on your computer before hearing about it. Fact is, Mac OS X/Unix/Linux are far more secure than Windows.

    Unless you're on a big Windows corporate network, I consider Norton to be a waste of money, time, cpu power, and memory.

    If you're keen on scanning for Windows files, use ClamXav (free and open source).
  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,315 points)
    Norton AV just discovered a serious exploit that allowed take over of Mac's, it has been patched a day ago, but the exploit has gone on for quite some time.

    It also begs the question of why would someone want to install code on the root level (requires your admin password) and open Mac OS X to all the faults of third party developers to protect against non-existant Mac malware?

    Sure there is the windows filth from PC friends files, but a AV program like ClamX AV (donationware) that doesn't require root powers or mess around inside Mac OS X itself is a much safer alternatve.

    If ClamX AV gets exploited, it's limited to the user level, if a program that uses root level access gets exploited your machine is dead meat.

    So it really doesn't make much sense to allow applications to run or install as root. (sure there are a few "must haves" but trust the security reputation of the source)

    Run as few "root request" applications as possible to minimize your security risk.

    Demand developers not require a admin password to install or use their programs.

    The Mac based Sony/BMG rootkit (software on some music cd's) asked for Mac users admin password and installed a exploitable rootkit on people's Mac's. This is totally unacceptable.
  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (46,115 points)
    Hi EJ Presidente;

    I would only consider this if you are able to get updates for NAV 10. That is you will be able to register your copy with Symantec for the purpose of getting virus defition updates. Without these updates, I think you would be better off to forget about. You will not be protecting yourself using outdated virus defintion.

    Allan
    tiger
  • El Presidente Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
    Thanx for all the replies i'd give you all stars if i could. Cheers
  • Level 6 Level 6 (11,035 points)
    However,
    I just successfully cleaned a load of Microsoft Word files of some word macro virus, which the owner of the computer was trying to send to PC's (their anti virus picked it up)! I just installed NAV 10 to clean it then took it off after.
    D
  • macjack Level 9 Level 9 (50,625 points)
    Hi DS Store, a couple of points here.

    Demand developers not require a admin password to install or use their programs.

    Just because an app does not require authentication, does not mean it's safe by any means. Users should download only from trusted sites and stay away from P2P software like LimeWire which may contain malware.

    If ClamX AV gets exploited, it's limited to the user level, if a program that uses root level access gets exploited your machine is dead meat.

    Another way to look at it is that a hosed system can be replaced but a compromised user folder is compromised forever. And that is where your important data like bank records, credit cards, etc are stored.


    -mj
    macjack@gmail.com



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