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Jul 23, 2011 10:33 AM in response to Jorge Lucasby christopher rigby1,Jorge Lucas wrote:
I will try there, or find the time and the resources to buy FileMaker Pro and move away from AppleWorks.
It is the best suite that exists — as the way the modules are integrated — but the database is a flat one, it is abandoned and there is no way to keep it going. What a shame that there is no chance to Apple build a complete suite as AppleWorks, because FileMaker is an Apple subsidiary.
FileMaker is a superb program, and will certainly more than compensate for the loss of the Database and Spreadsheet components of AW. The WP and PT functions can be easily substituted elsewhere.
Unfortunately, this won't help with the loss of vector graphics (DR), which is possibly the largest hole that AW leaves behind.
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Jul 23, 2011 10:46 AM in response to christopher rigby1by Jorge Lucas,Christopher,
I know that FileMaker Pro is a superb program; I played with it some years ago; the way you create a field is equal to AppleWorks. It is a relational database and from another level as that.
But, as far as I know, it did not substitute the spreadsheet; this you got with Numbers.
I know it can export data in SS format. In Excel, I do not know if it can export in Numbers, which would be ungorgiven, since Numbers exists for more than 3 years and FileMaker is an Apple company.
Jorge Lucas (the guy from Rio Grande do Sul)
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by Roger Wilmut1,Jul 23, 2011 11:34 AM in response to christopher rigby1
Roger Wilmut1
Jul 23, 2011 11:34 AM
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Unfortunately, this won't help with the loss of vector graphics (DR), which is possibly the largest hole that AW leaves behind.
EazyDraw is a powerful vector graphics program. It's in the App Store but you need the more expensive version from their website to open AW Draw documents.
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Jul 23, 2011 2:51 PM in response to Jorge Lucasby christopher rigby1,Jorge Lucas wrote:
Christopher,
I know that FileMaker Pro is a superb program; I played with it some years ago; the way you create a field is equal to AppleWorks. It is a relational database and from another level as that.
But, as far as I know, it did not substitute the spreadsheet; this you got with Numbers.
I know it can export data in SS format. In Excel, I do not know if it can export in Numbers, which would be ungorgiven, since Numbers exists for more than 3 years and FileMaker is an Apple company.
Jorge Lucas (the guy from Rio Grande do Sul)
Yes, Filemaker can certainly be used as a spreadsheet - any database can be viewed as a table, and manipulated as such. What's more, if you export from AW in Excel format, FM can read in Excel data and convert to FM. (Filemaker isn't really Apple, it's a wholly-owned subsidiary that goes its own way and makes its own development, release, distribution and pricing decisions. That's probably why it has no linkage to Numbers.)
Peggy wrote:
Take a look at Sketch & Draw It from Bohemian Coding. Both are vector drawing programs.
Roger Wilmut1 wrote:
EazyDraw is a powerful vector graphics program. It's in the App Store but you need the more expensive version from their website to open AW Draw documents.
Sorry, I may have misled you - I'm not much of a vector graphics user, I was simply repeating what I'd heard from others. Thanks for the links though.
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May 9, 2012 12:39 PM in response to fred137by farmwife,I have allot of Appleworks doc's and switched to Lion not knowing that I would loose the Appleworks. What is the easiest way for me to save these files? When I say allot of them I mean ALLOT!! I'm hoping to find a way to convert them to a word doc or something. HELP. I'm not real computer savy!!
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May 9, 2012 12:52 PM in response to farmwifeby Jorge Lucas,Hello Farmwife,
It seems that you just got onboard in Lion. Maybe my solution could be used by you.
I bought an 640 GB HD for my MacBook and save 40 GB of it for Snow Leopard. There I installed AppleWorks and other applications not ready for Lion, that I use in the school.
Think about it!
Besr regards,
Jorge Lucas (the guy from Vacaria)
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May 9, 2012 1:08 PM in response to farmwifeby christopher rigby1,You can save them, but you need an older Mac that can run AppleWorks. Assuming you can get access to one and see your documents, here's what to do :
1. Word Processing (WP) - Save As either RTF or even better as Word; these will open in Word or TextEdit or Pages.
2. Spreadsheets (SS) - Save As Excel format; will open in Excel or Numbers.
3. Drawings (DR) - Save As a variety of formats including BNP or PNG or JPEG or TIFF - they will open in a graphics editing program, but you will lose individual layers.
4. Painting (PT) - these are bitmapped images like digital photos, and should be Saved As any of the formats listed for Drawings, or you can save in Photoshop format. These are by far the easiest AW format to carry forward.
5. Databases (DB) - these are the biggest problem. Best Saved As "tab delimited" format, and can be opened in something like Bento. IF it is possible to Save As spreadsheet format, e.g. Excel, then certainly do that, and you will keep your field names and associated data.
If your documents are all WP and / or SS, then documents in AW format can be opened directly in Pages and Numbers (I think that's the case - can someone confirm?)
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May 9, 2012 1:12 PM in response to christopher rigby1by Roger Wilmut1,- Word Processing documents can be opened directly only in Pages (AppleWorks 6 only).
- Draw Documents can be opened directly only in EazyDraw (the more expensive version from their website, not the cheaper one from the Mac App Store, and you will need v4.0 'Retro' not the most recent version) or Intaglio (though this appears not to be able to handle very complex drawings).
- Spreadsheets can be opened directly only in Numbers.
- Presentations can be opened directly only in Keynote.
There is a detailed article on migrating from AppleWorks here:
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May 9, 2012 5:49 PM in response to Jorge Lucasby farmwife,Thanks Jorge - I have a old macbook laptop that I was thinking I could use but I don't have appleworks on it. Can I download Appleworks from the internet to it? If so what version do I need to start with?
Thanks!!
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May 9, 2012 5:52 PM in response to Jorge Lucasby farmwife,Thanks Jorge - I have a old macbook laptop that I was thinking I could use but I don't have appleworks on it. Can I download Appleworks from the internet to it? If so what version do I need to start with?
And yes I am new to Lion.... put one more update off as long as possible.
Thanks!!
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May 9, 2012 6:35 PM in response to farmwifeby Barry,Hi farmwife,
AppleWorks is not and never has been available for download from the internet.
If it is still installed on the computer now running Lion, you can transfer the whole AppleWorks 6 folder from the Application Folder (including all of its contents) on that machine to the Applications folder on your older MacBook, using a USB stick.
AppleWorks will create other files that it needs as it is run.
If you do not still have an installed copy of AppleWorks, you will need an installer disk. Unless your MacBook supports Classic and Mac OS 9, the installer must be one that will run under OS X. One source for these is Hard Core Mac, which has installer disks for AW 6,2,4. There may be others.
Any version of AW 6 may be updated to AW 6.2.9 using the update still available on the Apple site when I last checked.
Regards,
Barry
PS: When you said, "When I say allot of them I mean ALLOT!!" I think you actually meant that you have "A LOT!" as in 'a large number'.
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May 9, 2012 6:52 PM in response to Barryby farmwife,Thanks Barry!!
It is still there so I will try it out. And are you an english teacher!! LOL
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May 9, 2012 11:24 PM in response to farmwifeby Barry,You're welcome.
"And are you an english teacher!!"
If that was a question, the answer is 'Every teacher teaching in a school where the language used is English, is, for better or worse, an English teacher every time (s)he speaks (or writes).'
If it was, as indicated by the punctuation, an exclamation, then the proper response is, "Thank you."
Regards,
Barry
