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My Power Mac G5 is freezing up. A few days ago my G5 started freezing up, the cursor is unresponsive and none of the keys have any use. I have to press the power button to shut down and then restart. Sometimes on the restart, instead of the Apple logo I g

A few days ago my G5 started to freeze up while in use. It doesn't matter if in Safari, iTunes, Pages, etc. The cursor will not respond nor does any keystroke, force quit, escape, etc. I have to hold the power button down to shut the computer down. Then, try to restart. Sometimes restart will work and the computer will work for a while and then freeze again. Other times on restart, instead of the Apple logo at start up, I get a Zero with a line thru it, have to power off and restart again. When it does restart, the "spinning gear" takes a lot longer than normal to spin up and take me to the login screen. Have been told it may be my hard drive getting ready to fail. Have looked at disk utilities, S.M.A.R.T looks fine, "verified" and have verified disk, and repaired permissions. In case it is the hard drive, I bought external hard drive and hooked it up to Time Machine. The backing up to a long time, overnight, about 10 hours because it kept freexing up and I would have to shut down and try restarting again. Finally got everything backed up.


Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated!!! Could it be my hard drive is dying? Is the the normal chain of events or is it something else???

Power Mac G5 Dual 2.7 Ghz, 8GB SDRAM, ATI Radeon X850 XT, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Apple 23" HD Cinema Display

Posted on May 18, 2011 4:58 AM

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May 23, 2011 8:31 AM in response to BDAqua

Thanks Again! During the download it was running 5-8MB/sec.


1. Is this a sign the old hard drive was not spinning up to speed?


2. Added the old HD to Privacy pane. That seems to have slowed the CPU down, now lower idle numbers.


3. However, when I put the computer to sleep now, the screen goes to sleep but the motors/fan keep running. I have to press the power button to shut down. And have had 1 freeze today, much better than before, but was hoping that would go away with the new install on new HD.


4. Should I still get Disk Warrior and run on old or new disk. Can that maybe fix the old HD?


Thanks Again!

May 23, 2011 12:48 PM in response to skyflynbeachbum

1. No, it was running full speed or it wouldn't work at all, but it could mean it's a slow old drive, it was extremely fragmented, or having trouble reading it.


2. Good.


3. Have you tried disconnecting the old drive for a behavior test yet?


4. DW is great, I do think every Mac owner should have a copy, but whether it can fix it or not is unknown, though the way it defragments the directory can speed up access.


Have you done AJ yet?

May 24, 2011 7:23 AM in response to BDAqua

Computer kept freezing all day yesterday... but finally got Applejack installed and ran it last night.


I ran Applejack on the new HD, after starting from the new HD, last night. AJ did it's thing and afterwards everything, so far, seems to be running fine.


Then, I changed my startup disk from the new HD to the old HD, and started up Applejack on that drive. It frooze immediately. It would not run Applejack completely. Kept getting message, something like, "hang up here". I try it several times, to run Applejack, and kept getting same message.. it wouldn't let me type in "applejack auto restart" or type in anything. It would just start and then give me the "hang up here" message with some coding.

So, tried to startup "normally" on the old HD. As soon as the white screen, Apple logo spinning gear, page would come up, a see thru dark curtain would drop down saying I need to press the power button to restart in several languages.. also on this screen was an overlay of the Applejack script which had hung up. Tried to restart "normally" several times on the old HD and kept getting same message.


So, I changed back to the new HD for startup. And this morning have completely removed the old HD, taken it out of the G5, and just left the one, new HD in the G5. So far, it seems to be fine.


A portion of me wanted to keep messing with the old HD to see if I could fix it. But, if it is a bad or failing HD, I guess this is a lost cause. The new HD is in place and seems to be working fine. It seems that all of my data is on the new HD so all of that is OK. The only thing now is to get another HD to put in G5 for future backup and problems.


So, does any of this sound right? Is the old HD gone?? And was that, probably, the problem all along?


Applejack has seemed to make a difference, and I'll get a new Hd and backup again with SuperDuper.


Any other suggestions????

May 24, 2011 8:00 AM in response to BDAqua

Ok,, still some issues... could be non-related, don't know.


1) Now when I put the computer to sleep and try to wake, I get a black screen. Have to shut down with power button and restart twice. First restart comes up with black screen too, second time am able to restart. but..


2) On the restart, the first screen that comes has a little Mac/smiley face folder with a question mark... them after a few seconds, the Apple logo with spinning gear comes up and then proceeds a normal.


Sorry to keep bothering you... but any and all ideas GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!! In getting this machine back to normal!!!

May 24, 2011 10:55 AM in response to skyflynbeachbum

I do think it's time to get rid if the old drive, sounds like we got the info off of it just in time.


We may have gotten some bads files from the old drive, so 1st try reapplying the big combo, repair Permissions & reboot...


http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update


>On the restart, the first screen that comes has a little Mac/smiley face folder with a question mark...


Have you used System Preferences>Startup Disk to set the new one as the boot choice?

May 24, 2011 1:11 PM in response to BDAqua

Assigned startup disk... that fixed that.


Downloaded OSX 10.5.8 update, froze up a couple times during that, but finally got it downloaded. Keep trying to repair permissions... but it keeps freezing up before I can get thru. Have to push power button to shut down. Tried two restarts, both with black screens, shut down. Third try it came up and am now typing this.


About at my last wits end. I don't know why this thing keeps freezing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May 28, 2011 7:30 PM in response to BDAqua

Reloaded OS X 10.5.8 repaired permissions, etc. Still freezing. Have to restart 2-3 times to get it to come up. Now, white Apple logo screen has "applejack" type info, way above my pay grade. Wrote down what I could.. says things like

System Failure cpu=0 code 00000001 (currupt stack)

backtrace terminated frame outside of ram

Proceeding back via exception chain


backtrace terminated frame not mapping or invalid

BSD process name corresponding to current threads- usbmuxd

" ''""""" ""' """ - core serviced


gives a lot of code in between all of this stuff


don't know how to copy page/log to show full page


any of this tell anything?? any hope????

May 28, 2011 9:11 PM in response to skyflynbeachbum

Well, I'm not sure if there's hope or not, but if we give up there'll be none for sure! 😉


Seems like either CPU0 is bad, or possibly RAM.


Boot off your *original* Install Disk , then run the extended Apple Hardware Test. Some disks require you to use the Option key at bootup to select AHT. Some models have a separate AHT CD.


The Memory test can really only be trusted if it finds a problem, not if it doesn't find a problem. 😟


Memtest OS X...


http://www.memtestosx.org/joomla/index.php


Rember is a freeware GUI for the memtest ...


http://tech.kateva.org/2005/10/rember-freeware-memory-test-utility.html


I see neither of us have an eMail listed, but if you have aniChat account, I'm bdaqua on AIM.

May 28, 2011 10:54 PM in response to skyflynbeachbum

skyflynbeachbum wrote:


Ran AHT


Logic Board Error Detected

Error Code Error Code

2STH/1/3: CPU A AD7417AD 1


I'm guessing this is not good


So this is a problem with the CPU A Die Temperature thermometer. In ASD, there are three error messages: (1) could not read thermometer, (2) thermometer reads above alarm settings or (3) thermometer reads below alarm settings. The last one could be ignored, the other two cannot.


Of course, Apple HW test doesn't give that much detail, just the cryptic code.

May 29, 2011 8:53 AM in response to skyflynbeachbum

skyflynbeachbum wrote:


CPU A Die Temp -35.3C/-31.6F

CPU B Die Temp 56.7C/134.1F


Sometimes CPU B has no readings, die, voltage, current, etc... shows as "disconnected" then magically reappears.


What is ASD? Novice here!!!!


OK, the temperature diode or thermister is not reporting. Not sure if that has a separate lead out of the CPU module, but that would be a possibility.


Possibly a reseat of the processor modules would help. (Cannot estimate the number of times that a module reseat has cured a problem in either personal or professional lives.)


ASD is Apple Service Diagnostic, a large program which Apple service providers have used to diagnose HW problems on various machines. It is not generally available, however. It would probably be version 2.5.8 and is usually found these days via bit torrent download as a 220 MByte DMG file that is then burned to a CD that the machine will boot from.

My Power Mac G5 is freezing up. A few days ago my G5 started freezing up, the cursor is unresponsive and none of the keys have any use. I have to press the power button to shut down and then restart. Sometimes on the restart, instead of the Apple logo I g

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