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  • Pancenter Level 6 Level 6 (8,525 points)

    Don Archibald wrote:

     

    "Jive cat" used to mean someone exceptional, someone who was 'with it'.

     

    In the Wikipedia definition page for "Jive", there are far more positive meanings than negative ones -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive


    Don, look it up in the Mac's Oxford American dictionary.

     

    Origin: 1920s (originally U.S. denoting meaningless or misleading speech)

     

     

    Unfortunately, Wikipedia has things wrong almost as much as it has things right.

     

    pancenter-

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,875 points)

    Pancenter wrote:

    It most often means empty meaningless talk, or when said about a musician it means the same thing about the way they play. In 40 years of playing professionally I've never heard it used to compliment someone.

    But had you been playing in the swing era many years before that, you might well have heard it used as a complement, especially among black American jazz musicians describing someone's mastery of what was once the hottest trend in popular big band music.

     

    For that matter, the Oxford American dictionary's origin note may have been more about language intentionally made obscure to prevent outsiders from understanding what it meant than about it actually being meaningless.

     

    How all that relates to the choice of the company's name I'm not exactly sure, but I suspect it may have had something to do with the association of the jive dance style with dynamic & quickly adaptable code.

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,875 points)

    Pancenter wrote:

    I guess signing in before doing anything is the only way to go at this time, very inefficient compared to the old software.

    Not necessarily. If you don't sign in then there is no personalized home page, no "Your stuff," no indication of what discussions you have viewed in the past, no "Updated" markers, etc.

  • romad Level 3 Level 3 (590 points)

    Reminds me of the scene in Airplane! where a white lady asks the stewardess if she needs help talking to two black hep cats: "Stewardess, I speak Jive"

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,875 points)

    If you are old enough to remember the 1950's Leave It To Beaver TV sitcom, you might recognize that white lady as Barbara Billingsley, who played the mother in that idealized, super-wholesome TV family. That made her cameo appearance & the whole jive bit that much funnier.

     

    If you happen to own the 25th anniversary "Don't call me Shirley" edition of the Airplane DVD, don't miss the interview with her in the extras. She talks about working the scene out with the two black actors & how, even though she had no idea what the lines meant, they were impressed with her delivery.

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (12,635 points)

    Word up. Square business!

  • buz Level 4 Level 4 (1,185 points)

    Pancenter wrote:

     

    I guess signing in before doing anything is the only way to go at this time, very inefficient compared to the old software.

     

    pancenter-

    I'm no old hand here, but have lurked for many years. Often times I'm out and about the internet searching answers and a link brings me here. The old way was .... elegant. The link brought me to a thread, I signed in and presto chango I'm right back at the thread. There are times when this is my destination to start with a bookmark to the log in page is my start. I'm in total agreement with Pancenter. Really hope this gets changed.

     

    Chat bubbles and a mile of wasted white space right of the threads is beyond me. This isn't some cartoon (or is it).

     

    I don't know about the rest of you, but the scroll bar is sticky for me. Meaning I click/drag it and it doesn't move right away. Once it's moving it's fluid till I let go of it.

     

    Navigating the old forums was effortless. I have no way of comparing, but it seems I'm clicking at least half again as many times to get anywhere (maybe twice as many).

     

    I look in the world around me and see similar 'progress' practically everywhere I look. (sigh)

     

    I must be getting old and crotchety.

  • rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,890 points)

    >3. It's now impossible to read posted crash logs.

     

    If you copy & paste the text from a crash log from these forums to TextWrangler, the text will come out looking as you expect.  The text is displayed n a proportional font. Copying to TextWrangler displays the text again in a non-proportional font.  It's free:

    http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

     

    What I do is click on Use advanced editor

    click on >>

    click on syntax highlighting

    click on plain

     

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    Interval Since Last Report:          444678 sec
    Crashes Since Last Report:           56
    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  102 sec
    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
    Anonymous UUID:                      88DDA109-E390-4120-B295-826E171C7370
    

     

     

    Robert

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,920 points)

    Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you do that with TextEdit?

  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (31,075 points)

    Pancenter --

     

    It's now impossible to read posted crash logs.

     

    I could not agree more.  Having to stop and copy all the text and then put it into another program is ridiculous.

    We used to be able to read them just fine.  Now they're condensed so much, each original line now takes two or three.  Maybe they don't want us trying to read crash reports.

     

    Not many people really try to read crash reports.

    Maybe that's why putting it into another app seems like a no brainer.

    Trying to help out with crash reports in the Safari forums is like having a root canal.

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)

    1. It did that before the forum change too. Most annoying!

    2. I am not sure I have noticed it.

    3. Yes difficult to read. Someone suggested to copy and paste to TextEdit. Why? That is extra labor. Better it works in the forum from the beginning

    4. I am also missing the draft feature, very much!

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,875 points)

    fruhulda wrote:

    3. Yes difficult to read. Someone suggested to copy and paste to TextEdit. Why? That is extra labor. Better it works in the forum from the beginning

    To be fair about it, the old AD format was not that great for posting crash or other logs either. Even with its wider replies many log entries, especially ones listing binary image data, would not fit on one line of the reply.

     

    The old format also had an annoying habit of mangling log entries because it interpreted some character strings as markup tags.

     

    If you really want to study a crash or other log, it is best to use something like TextWrangler.

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)

    You probably know more about it then me but I liked those crash reports that showed the problem in another colour. I didn't have to look through every line to find them.

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,875 points)

    AFAIK, the old AD did not have that feature.

  • Tuttle Level 7 Level 7 (29,270 points)

    It did if you posted them within {code} tags.