5 Replies Latest reply: May 25, 2011 7:25 PM by osjo73
osjo73 Level 1 Level 1

Sorry for the long posts, with multiple questions, but I think they are all related.

 

1.   I often, accidentally, set a window to Full Screen.  The window fills entire desktop, with the exception of the menu bar.  I want to be able to cascade two or more windows such that I can see both on the desktop.  While still seeing some parts of the desktop.  I'm able to minimize to the dock, by selecting the '-' option with my mouse. 

 

     a.  What are the keyboard shortcuts for minimize, unminimize window.  Typically in Win  I would Alt-tab, and tab to the window I want to see.  When I Cmd-tab and select, e.g., firefox, in  Mac nothing happens.  It seems the only way to unminimize from the dock is to use the mouse.  Is there a keyboard shortcut?  And is this really 'minimizing the window', 'hiding the window', or something else.

 

     b.  Does the Mac have the concept of 'saving window size' similar to windows when the minimize option changes to 'minimize to size X'?  'Size X' being less than full screen and more than 'minimized'?  If so, how do I enable this concept?  If not, is there some alternative that Macions typically use to go from full screen to 'Size X' screen?

 

     c.  Please describe the concept of hide X, unhide All, show all?  And specifically why the 2ndary menu's do not have the complete set included.  For example:  If there is an option to 'hide X', I would expect there to be a 'unhide X'.  X being window, application, all windows, all applications, etc.

 

     d.  What is the logical relationship between all the 'hide','show', minimize X, etc. features that I am obviously missing?  There seems to be some logic to it but I am oblivious to it.  And thus spend quite a bit of time looking for a window and trying to get it to display on my desktop.  And then once its on my desktop, I spend more time trying to go from 'not-full screen-but-not minimized' and minimized.

 

Any help is appreciated.!!1 

 

And yes, I have looked through the Mac 101, Switch to Mac tutorials.  They mention how to do some of the functions I mention.  But there is no explanation of the relationship between them/purpose for each.  I'm sure they are not duplicates of each other.  And lastly, it does not fully explain keyboard shortcuts.  e.g., I think I found a keyboard shortcut for 'hide X' but then I didn't find the shortcut for 'un-hide X', etc.


Macbook Air - 13", Mac OS X (10.6.5), Dell Laptop XP
Solved by osjo73 on May 25, 2011 7:25 PM Solved

https://discussions.apple.com/message/15276655#15276655

 

Think this answers my question. Combination of front application, no unhide shortcut, and different functionality for zoom or maximize button depending on application active.  I love my Mac....but this is quite confusing.

 

I typically tried the minimize to dock in firefox and then do the cmd tab to unhide it. Apparently this functionality doesn't apply in firefox....hope this helps someone

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10

    See  Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts.

     

    Apple - Support - Switch 101.

     

    Let's see, now.  Show means, "make visible."  Hide means, "make invisible."  It then follows logically as to what "Show All" and "Hide All" must mean.

     

    Other differences simply reflect Apple's design for OS X versus Microsoft's design for Windows.

     

    Usually COMMAND-H hides if the object is visible and un-hides if the object is invisible - a switch.

     

    I switch between OS X and Windows and Linux all of which have somewhat different UIs, but it's not that hard unless you want to make it so, which is what i think you are doing.

  • osjo73 Level 1 Level 1

    You may very well be correct. BUT, it certainly seems as if I'm spending a lot of time trying to "make visible" a minimized or hidden window. 

     

    Can u at least explain the purpose for both hide and minimize? I concede I am not getting something simple; but repeating the fact that "it's simple" and "I don't get it" does not negate the fact that I am finding it difficult to bring back a window I send away.  Faciciousness aside, I have given it time, and have read various ms osx books and articles.  Im sure it's "simple"....I still dont get it!  Ughhhhhh

  • Kelly Coull Level 4 Level 4

    Hide hides the window/app. Minimize minimized it down to the dock. Not trying to be smart about it, but that is really all there is to it. If you hide an app, it will not show up on the screen until you move back to that app. If you minimize a window, it will be in the dock for you to open back up whenever you need it.

  • osjo73 Level 1 Level 1

    Not to be obtuse about it, but hide and minimize both make the window disappear from view.

    You say minimize puts it into the dock and only comes back when you put it back.

    Well, when you hide it, it goes to...wherever, and doesn't come back until you move it back.

     

    Your description is exactly why I'm confused.  When do YOU use hide? And when do you use minimize?

     

    I wont even get into not being able to make the window appear again, using one consistent process....

  • osjo73 Level 1 Level 1

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/15276655#15276655

     

    Think this answers my question. Combination of front application, no unhide shortcut, and different functionality for zoom or maximize button depending on application active.  I love my Mac....but this is quite confusing.

     

    I typically tried the minimize to dock in firefox and then do the cmd tab to unhide it. Apparently this functionality doesn't apply in firefox....hope this helps someone