Famous Songs produced in Logic?

yep that's exactly what happens.

he is really old school. he composes on 12-stave manuscript, paper and pencil at the piano. he orchestrates as he goes and even does 1/3 to 1/2 of the full orchestration after writing. nowadays, they change the edits so often and so dramtically, that he hardly ever gets to have anything he has written to picture to the picture he wrote it for. he has editors that edit his orchestration and cues to fit the new pictures before the record, and sound editors to edit it after the record because the pictures may change again.

to give an example - if you have seen the 3rd harry potter film, there is a section on the night bus where the bus sqeezes between 2 london busses. no one told him that was in the new edit - he had to go away that night and write something to stick in between the main body of the cue. in turned out to be incredibly effective scoring. the man is a bona fide genius.

I spent my weekend listening your mix and I like very much Melissa O'Neil mix...
It's really everything "made" in Logic?...
Mastering Too?...
Which drum kit did you use it for example...(acoustic drum)
I would like to ask you many more questions but I don't know if you have time...

Any advice will be appreciated


Dual 2GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

sorry for the delayed reply. i can answer any questions you might have if you email me at

wannabex@videotron.ca

Thanks!!!

BT and Peter Gabriel are known for using Logic extensively while composing and working, but whether that is what they end up actually final mixing on I am not sure. Many switch over to Pro Tools for the final audio editing mixing stages because it (audio editing) can be faster for some in Pro Tools (sample accurate editing in the arrange window).

BT article this month keyboard talks about logic.
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?sectioncode=29&storycode=12191


G4 DP 1.25 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

well since ya used the sneaker pimps as a reference...
*dj sasha (his whole carreer)
*shpongle a.k.a. hallucinogen
*B.T.
*Mars Volta (get their album)
*phincycle
*the first Bjork CD. (the second Bjork CD came with some video which showed her working in the studio, and one scene showed PT on her monitor, another showed Logica Platinumus 5)

It's probably safe to say that everything you've ever heard that was recorded using a computer involved proTools or Logic ( distant third-places being either cubase or digital performeration or some other what-ever-happened-to-that-software )

I don't know about famous (yet!!). But I just finished production on 2 songs for Canadian Idol winner Melissa O'Neil and Runner-up Rex Goudie. (available on the canadian iTMS) Entirely written, recorded and mixed within Logic, without 3rd party plugs. All synths and drums are Logic synths or EXS24 sounds except for a couple of Stylus RMX loops. All guitar and bass sounds courtesy of Guitar Amp Pro.

Follow that link to hear them.

http://homepage.mac.com/fredstgelais/Music/FileSharing14.html

DURAN DURAN: Astronaut(2005),album
this was written in MIX magazine about recording of that album: Rick Sheppard recorded the band through Sphere's Neve to a Pro Tools|HD4 with Logic Audio on the front end. They had rented Pro Tools|HD and HD3 units, but both lacked the processing power needed to handle Sheppard's massive library. “I use [Tascam] GigaStudio for my sample library,” he says. “I run that on a PC and run Logic on the Mac, so I just use the PC as a sampler. I have a couple hundred thousand .WAV files and tons of Gig files.....
Rick Sheppard=enginner
you might be interested about plugins too:

...Needless to say, Sheppard uses more plug-ins than outboard gear. Aside from the Neve's EQs and effects, an API 500-6B Lunchbox EQ and a Universal Audio 6176 for LeBon's vocals, Sheppard relied mainly on SoundToys, McDSP and Emagic's Logic plug-ins....


Astronaut is the bands best selling album for over a decade... Hope it is famous enough 🙂

BTW-It's definitelly not the gear that makes the song famous or successfull. I put the skills and effort of everyone involved (authors of words/music, musicians, engeneers+producers, the "Label" guys...) at a first place.

But that's just my two cents... 🙂

I recall reading somewhere that Walter Becker (Steely Dan) uses Logic (on PowerBook, I think) during writing and arranging.

Again, from memory, their most recent CD (Everything Must Go), the rhythm tracks were recorded live in the studio to analog tape. Then the tape was flown into ProTools for overdubs and mixing, then the final master was done with the digital dubs and the original tapes. The goal was to scrape the tape over the heads as few times as possible. The CD sounds incredible.

I was at a Bob Dylan concert last March in Denver, Colorado at the Fillmore West. In the middle of the floor was the mixing station/sound control, and sure enough I saw an apple laptop with Logic up and running... (didn't know it was Logic at the time, but recognized the layout/color scheme at the Apple Store a couple weeks later)...

Whether or not it was Dylan's production crew's setup or the Fillmore's setup is unknown...

I also red somwhere about recording David Bowie's Reality album. It was recorded into Logic wth some exceptions: drums (and bass probably) and maybe something else were recorded to analog tape first (I do not know if they were moved to Logic later or if they played back from the multitrack taperecorder during mixdown...).
The mixdown of the album did not happen "in the box" . the tracks run from Logic through analog concole BUT as I remember the mixerman/ or producer did not run all tracks separately to analog console... He used submixed groups instead (theese he prepaired in Logic and I think I remember they used Logic's automation )... So it is probably also an exaple of album which was Stem-prepaired ITB (in the box) than summed-in-analog 🙂

i have a friend who is a top engineer at abbey road. apparantly phantom menace was recorded onto a laptop with logic. i wish i knew or can remember more of the ins and outs of that, but apparantly they did it that way because it was going to be mixed back in the states.

david arnold does everything in logic.

Here is the list (that i copied from the legacy emagic site) which encompasses Logic users or artist whose producers are using Logic:
As you can see, it's a loved software.

Teddy Riley
Whitney Houston,
Blackstreet,
Michael Jackson,
Janet Jackson
NSYNC
Platinum Group
No Strings Attached
BT
Movement In Still Life
Peter Gabriel
Platinum
Phil Collins, Genesis,
Sinead O’Connor
Mirwais
Madonna
Jermaine Dupri
Mariah Carey,
Da Brat,
Jagged Edge,
Destiny’s Child,
Dru Hill
David Newman
Jamiroquai
Return of the Space Cowboy
Josh Abraham
Limp Bizkit,
Orgy,
Korn
James Poyser
D’Angelo,
Erykah Badu,
Lauryn Hill
Mutt Lang
Backstreet Boys,
Shania Twain,
Foreigner
Herbie Hancock
Donald Byrd,
Chick Corea
Danny Saber
Marilyn Manson,
Seal,
Garbage
Barenaked Ladies
Maroon
Keith Thomas
Amy Grant,
98°,
Vanessa Williams
Donell Jones
Where I Wanna Be
Chick Corea
Donald Byrd,
Wayne Shorter
Charlie Clouser
NIN
Holy Wood
Stanley Clarke
George Duke
George Duke
Billy Cobham
Mark Isham
Kay Gee
Next,
One In a Million,
Queen Latifah
Danny Lux
Ally McBeal,
Boston Public
Mary J. Blige
Rick Rubin
Beastie Boys,
Red Hot Chili Peppers,
Melanie C
Skinny Puppy
The Process
Big Chucky Thompson
Mary J.
Blige,
Puff Daddy,
Faith Evans
Patrick Leonard
Enrique Inglesias,
Jewel
Bob Power
The ROOTS,
Erykah Badu
Jazzy Jeff
ll smith
Jill Scott,
James Poyser
Russ Landau
Survivor
Frank Serafine
Chris Maxwell
Malcom In the Middle
Eddie F.
The Crystal Method
Comin Back
Roger Sanchez
Kathy Sledge
imee Mann
Whatever
Ben Grosse
B52’s,
Filter,
Rollins Band
Darren Lighty
Next,
LL Cool J,
TLC
Tony Maserati
Amber
Eric Williams
Blackstreet
Marcus Miller
Things Fall Apart
Christina Aguilera,
LFO
Jean Marie Horvat
Chris Ting
Dave Pensado
Brian McKnight,
Black Eyed Peas,
David Frank
Guns N Roses
Use Your Illusion
Jed Lieber
Keith Richards
Rhett Lawrence
Quincy Jones
Gary Carolla
Omar Hakim
David Bowie,
Mariah Carey,
Dr. Dre,
Daz Dillinger,
Nate Dogg
Bryce Wilson
Groove Theory
Toni Braxton
Chemical Brothers
Billie Meyer,
Wyclef Jean,
Bebe Winans
Stabbing Westward
Cameron Frankly
Paramount pictures
Alan Pasqua
Sammy Hagar,
Peter Erskine
John Patitucci,
Carlos Santana
Wah Wah Watson
Maxwell,
Barry White
Will Lee
Peter McCabe
Ricky Martin,
Krayzie Bone,
Tracie Spencer,
Jennifer Lopez
David Torn
DC Talk
Supernatural Experience
Dexter Simmons
Brandy
MDFMK
And the Beat Goes On
Duncan Sheik
Humming
QDIII
2 Pac,
Ice Cube,
Public Enemy,
Ice Cube
Michael Delorenzo
Waylon Jennings
Steve ***
Joe Jackson,
Joe Satriani
Ashley Ingram
Des’ree
Josie,
Jesse Powell
Inspiration /Joy and Pain
Michael Sembello
Brian McKnight,
New Edition,
Don Grusin
Sway and Tech
MTV,
The Anthem
Danny Sembello
haka Khan,
Tatyana Ali,
ulie Brown
Stephen Bray
London Beat
Citizen King
Mobile Estates
Hiram Bullock
David Sanborn,
Roberta Flack,
Idris Muhammad
Tony Mangurian
Luscious Jackson,
Bob Dylan,
Willie Nelson
Blue Oyster
Cult,
Greg Kihn,
Alice Cooper
Kip Winger
Rick Hahn
Celine Dion,
Tom Scott,
Spies
Genard Parker
K-Ci & Jo-Jo,
SWV,
Intro
Josh Wink
Don’t Laugh
Carl Wheeler
Tony Toni Tone,
Edwin Hawkins,
Tramaine Hawkins
Gen Rubin
Baby Face,
Raymon
d Jones
Chic, , Lisa Fischer
Bill Esses
Foxy Brown
Nigel Pulsford
DJ Spinbad
Moby
Big bad Voodoo Daddy
Michael Wagner
Motley Crue,
Tony Berg
Lisa Loeb,
Bette Midler,
The Neville Brothers
Bell Biv Devoe
Jeff Lorber
Midnight
Bill Plummer
Deee-lite,
Will Downing
Delirious
Glo
Mad Jeff
Reggie Griffin
Boyz II Men,
Babyface,
Isley Brothers
G. Thomas Furgerson
Sisqo,
Dru Hill,
Daz Dillinger
Britney Spears
Chris Henderson
KASE
Christian B.
Freddie Washington
Aaron Hall
Steven Page
Barenaked Ladies
Wild Orchid
Randy Waldman
Kenny G,
Bosko Cante
-40,
Kurupt,
Master P
Percy Bady
Winans,
R. Kelly,
Youth Edition
Kurt Bisquera
Crystal Lewis,
Nelly Furtado
Mark Bell
Bjork,
BBD
Organized Noize
Outkast,
Goodie Mob,
Kurupt
Del Atkins
Dr. Dre,
DJ Quick,
Warren G
Guliano Franco
Beck,
Tori Amos,
Amnesia
DJ Hidao
Dave Weckl
Transition
Andy Snitzer
Kidney Thieves
Ndugu Chancler
Weather Report
Joe Cocker
Bill Gould
Faith No More
Ed Roberston
Barenaked Ladies
Andy Cichon
Shania Twain
Sasha
Pet Shop Boys
M-People,
BT
Marley Marl
Capone and Noriega,
Rahzel,
Funk Master Flex
Ian Boxill
Jon B.,
Aaron Neville,
2 Pac
Chico Freeman
McCoy Tyner,
Arthur Blythe,
Norman Hedman
Michael Shrieve
Mick Jagger,
David Torn
Ramone Huggins
Eminem,
Dr. Dre
Tony Shepard
arbara Streisand,
Stephen Bray,
Randy Waldman
Benjamin Wright
Lucy Pearl,
DJ Quick,
Bassy Bob Brockman
Faith Evans
Tom Fritze
Melanie C.,
Keith Sweat,
Laura Branigan
The Hunger
Lukasz Gottwald
Poogie Bell
Erykah Badu,
Marcus Miller,
Robin S.
David Rosenthal
Billy Joel
Tim Gorman
efferson Starship,
The Who,
Rolling Stones
Morris O’Connor
Montell Jordan,
LV,
Warren G.
Carlos Warlick
E-40,
Cypress Hill
DJ Skribble
Cindy Margolis,
Wyclef Jean
Serban Ghenea
ill Scott,
Jay Z,
Usher
Mickey Petralia
Jude,
Beck,
Luscious Jackson
ee Ritenour
George Benson,
The Brothers Johnson
Darrel Diaz
Cherokee,
John Wicks
Sylk 130,
Ovum Records
Julian Beeston
Anita Ward,
Die Krupps
Tom Salta
Junior Vasquez,
Cher,
Primer 55
Simon Franglen
En Vogue
Joey Waronker
Smashing Pumpkins,
Suburbia,
Beck
Dave Wilder
Macy Gray’s band
Brian Middleton
B96
Chicago
Wake Up Show
Jeff Bernstein
Jennifer Lopez,
Brian Mcnight
Tony Hoffer
X-ecutioners
James "Mad Ball" Canade
Mark Rivera
Jonathan Sola
Jack Kugell
Martina Mcbride,
Victoria Beckham
O-Town,
All 4 One
Gary Grant
David Foster,
Fourplay,
Julio Inglesias

well - i don't think that the powerbook would have had to do much more than tracking. knowing how they work they would have recorded using prism converters (infact that was discussed at the time too), and undoubtedly onto an external firewire drive. i must say - i was pretty surprised too. i don't know how many tracks they used - most likely 24 (which a powerbook would handle fine), but most of the "mixing" is done live with the orchestra. shawn murphy, who records john williams' scores simply sets up the desk and the main reocrding is simply the overhead pair. then he has ambient mics in the room corners. he spot mics as well in case a section needs to be brought out but he's on record as saying that generally they try to do that in the room (ie the orchestra plays louder or softer). it's this old school approach that gives john williams his unique sound.

i might add while we're on the subject, i have quite a few friends in the lso, and they very often (in fact mostly) work without click. JW is legendary for being able to conduct precisely in time and hit markers exactly with nothing more than a big stop-clock and streamers on a projected film in front of him (behind the orchestra). oh for the luxury and experience to pull these sorts of tricks off. they players also tell me that he is one of the best conductors they work with, able to pick out obscure mistakes or problems even in dense textures.

i should also add, that they now prefer to record onto tape these days. analogue is definitely "in".

many people track and sequence in logic but the final mix is usually still done in pt. pt is still the mix format of choice at least here in L.A. Some still use mpc but that number is dwindling. at least 70% of the records that i've worked on and/or my friends have produced (including the hits) have been at least sequenced in logic. Most still track vox in Pt and even more still mix in pt. it will be interesting to see if this changes here in the states over the next few years. it's mainly been a european thing until about 3-4 years ago. i actually got pt and logic at the same time way back at version 4.5 (pre exs 24 or evp88 etc). i ignored logic years but kept working with so many europeans that i had to learn it. i saw where things were headed and new i'd have to get on board.

Many engineers here are having to learn logic because so many producers are using it mainly because of the virtual inst and it is cheaper that pt. the problem is that the learning curve is huge especially for those coming from pt. although you can do many of the same things in logic as pt it is still easier to edit audio in pt where it may take 3 steps in logic to do what it would take 1 in pt. also because there are so many functions in logic that have names that you wouldn't expect (such as "clutch" which suspends groups), it is difficult for a pt user to know exactly how to get to the function he's looking for. also, the arrange window is still not sample accurate and the stereo spread (logic's summing bus) is very narrow and small which are huge issues for potential pt users especailly engineers to who may wish switch over...but they did at least ad the marquis tool which helps a lot.

in the end i think it will come down to economics. if budgets keep getting smaller, big studios keep closing, more high quality logic specific interfaces such as apogee's new ensemble are developed and if the music industry in the us follows the trend of europe where they expect producers to mix their own records, i think you will see a lot more hits coming totally out of logic in the next few years. it really does come down to price/performance ratio.

2" still sounds better than everything but who cares...pt is cheaper and has better price/performance ratio...the same may happen to pt in the next few years.

ej

"after all...we do all of this work for it to end up on an mp3 anyway"

Another one to add to the list is Rennie Pilgrem... He actually uses GB to get his loops sorted, bounces and exports to Live, sorts out all the cuts and things, and then import to Logic for arrangement and mixdown. A great many people use Logic, and although you cannot call everyone on this forum famous, there are many here who are very respected engineers (see Blumpy for example [he had an article on the Apple Pro site!!]). Logic ain't no toy, it's serious stuff. Best, Fred