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Q: What happens to iWeb when there's no Mobile Me?

I was disappointed to learn that Apple will turn off Mobile Me next year. I'm a teacher and I liked using iWeb to create a small website for my classes (Homework, Activities,etc.). It was easy and the pages looked OK to me. I haven renewed my Mobile Me subscription when I bought a new iMac in January. Now I have to go through a bunch s__t to get a refund.

 

I am not interested in iClouds, iPhones, iPads, etc. I just don't want all the extra stuff. I just liked having an easy to post a website and create decent looking webpages.

 

You have to pay for iCloud, right? If I don't use and don't intend to use any iOS devices, what good is iCloud? Does it have any value?

 

What happens to my iDisk after June 30, 2012? Does it disappear?

 

Will iWeb be killed as well? I am told that you can publish webpages with iWeb to 3rd party sites, but if the application is no longer supported, it won't be long before it won't work correctly.

 

Are there any applications as good as and EASY as iWeb to use?

iBook G4 / iMacG4 / iMacG5 / / Mac Book Pro/ eMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 7:48 PM

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  • by Wyodor,

    Wyodor Wyodor Apr 10, 2012 9:08 AM in response to jillbrock
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    Apr 10, 2012 9:08 AM in response to jillbrock

    And here you can learn to practice the routine :

     

    http://www.wyodor.net/Tutorials/iWebDemo/sFTP.html

  • by Wyodor,

    Wyodor Wyodor Apr 10, 2012 9:11 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Apr 10, 2012 9:11 AM in response to Old Toad

    Or you can use subdomains and have the url to be like this:

     

    Demo_1/oldtoad.net

    Demo_2/oldtoad.net

    Not really. It should be more like this :

     

    http://demo_1.oldtoad.net

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Apr 10, 2012 9:15 AM in response to Wyodor
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    Apr 10, 2012 9:15 AM in response to Wyodor

    Thanks.  Hadn't created one at my host so didn't know what the format would be. 

  • by Wyodor,

    Wyodor Wyodor Apr 10, 2012 9:29 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Apr 10, 2012 9:29 AM in response to Old Toad

    Thanks.  Hadn't created one at my host so didn't know what the format would be.

     

    Don't you?

     

    SimulatedSubDomains.png

     

    And don't you read my posts about the wrong use of the word subdomain?

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 11, 2012 3:54 AM in response to Wyodor
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:54 AM in response to Wyodor

    You right.  To claify for all including "Old Toad"  a "subdomain" come to the left of the domain address like;

     

    subdomain.domain.com and sub-subdomain.subdomain.com  giving webaddresses of;

     

    http://subdomain.domain.com/ or http://www.subdomain.domain.com/

     

    http://sub-subdomain.subdomain.domain.com http://www.sub-subdomaind.subdomain.domain.com/

     

    and so on.  A more expanded all be it a basic explanation;  A website has three parts the type (HTTP, FTP, and others) then a left hand being the "domainname" "www.domainname.nnnnnn" followed by a "/" and the right side being a file location and name. "path/name" 

     

    Evey computer/network device on a IP network has a IP number and that number can be maped to a domain and a name (DomainName).  (computer-1, computer-2, computer-3, printer-1, lazer-printer-2 and so on) each of the devices is part of a company say "my-company" and that company is a type of (internation, orgnazation, company in a country, a information source ect.....) ginving (COM, ORG, CO.nn(UK), INFO ect......) so my-company being a international company would have the domain "my-company.com" and subdomain computer-1.my-company.com, computer-2.my-company.com printer-1.my-company.com and so on.......  off couse all these names would be behand a firewall and my be just internel to my-company but I may also deside to have two servers named "www" and "mail" giving the subdomain-names of www.my-company.com and mail.my-company.com.   off couse I may deside that I don't want to admin hassel of these two servers so I have them hosted. 

     

    This is a lot of information to give and much more than perhaps should be given but I hope it clears some things up.  There is lots more information to give but hears not the best place to learn it.

  • by Mike Rousseau,

    Mike Rousseau Mike Rousseau Apr 11, 2012 4:16 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 11, 2012 4:16 AM in response to TopSteve

    So in the Mobileme world as we live today,  what is what in the following:

     

    http://web.me.com/myid/wlecome/mainpage.html

  • by Wyodor,

    Wyodor Wyodor Apr 11, 2012 10:59 AM in response to Mike Rousseau
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    Apr 11, 2012 10:59 AM in response to Mike Rousseau

    http://web.me.com/

     

    Domainname

     

    myid/

     

    Username

     

    wlecome/

     

    Sitename

     

    mainpage.html

     

    Pagename

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 11, 2012 2:22 PM in response to Wyodor
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    Apr 11, 2012 2:22 PM in response to Wyodor

    yep Wyodor your right but one can add to that.

     

    "http://"                     Type of service     "HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, FTPS, Telnet, SSH and others prefixes" tell the browser how to deal with the file it is receiving/getting.

     

    "web.me.com/"          Domainname (Including a subdomain "web" and is the name of the server your website is on and translats to an IP address some intresting things you might try are (open a termainal and type "nslookup web.me.com" and you will get the servers IP then you can replace web.me.com with it's IP address and your site will still come up) e.g "HTTP://2.20.92.59/myid/welcome/mainpage.html".) (or if you run "Network Utility" you can try lots of things.) sorry for the spelling I am dislex.....

     

     

    "myid/welcome/"          Path

    "mainpage.html"         File

     

     

    All togever it is known as a URL  Universal Routing Language

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 11, 2012 2:28 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 11, 2012 2:28 PM in response to TopSteve

    To very intesting things you might try is "Whois web.me.com" and "Finger username@web.me.com"

  • by roby22,

    roby22 roby22 Apr 13, 2012 9:55 AM in response to josemari
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    Apr 13, 2012 9:55 AM in response to josemari

    I totally agree

  • by roby22,

    roby22 roby22 Apr 13, 2012 10:09 AM in response to hughmass
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    Apr 13, 2012 10:09 AM in response to hughmass

    Wonder if you ever made those tutorials?  I am looking for a way to do multiple columns on Sandvox like I have on my iWeb website http://www.johnnyrobish.com.  Sandvox support tried to discourage columns, but did provide a great explanation about why iWeb is lacking as a website builder.  They said iWeb is like a jpg that you can add to, but words are not readable to (SEO) to draw search engines to your site.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Apr 13, 2012 4:01 PM in response to roby22
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    Apr 13, 2012 4:01 PM in response to roby22

    Do you know that you're using a non - Web Safe Font in your website and for those computers that do not have the MonaLisaSolidITCTT font the website will look like this?

    Safari001.jpg

     

    With Flux you can put text boxes anywhere you want and use any font you want by adding the font to a font folder with the website and using that font from within Flux.  You can drag and drop the text boxes (actually empy <div> </div> containers anywhere you'd like on the page. This videocast at YouTube shows adding a few containers to a page: Flux Tutorial Part 1 - YouTube. It's a bit disjointed and unprofessional but does illustrate the multiple containers.  Flux 4 is now out with new and supposedly better features.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Apr 13, 2012 4:12 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Apr 13, 2012 4:12 PM in response to Old Toad

    You can do the same sort of thing with an iWeb Snippet...

     

    http://www.iwebformusicians.com/iWeb/Fonts-Colors.html

     

    ... although its a lot easier to do this using an HTML editor app since the styles can be added to the main stylesheet and the div or paragraph given a class to reduce the amount of code on the page.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 13, 2012 6:11 PM in response to roby22
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    Apr 13, 2012 6:11 PM in response to roby22

    If you like using iWeb insted of Sandvox you still can even when MobilMe stops iWeb will still work with another Hosting povider.

  • by roby22,

    roby22 roby22 Apr 13, 2012 6:40 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 13, 2012 6:40 PM in response to TopSteve

    I don't think that will be the case once Mountain Lion comes out.  At least that's what I hear from AppleCare people.  Personally, I never used MobileMe as a web host and thought it sucked, but I was hoping that iWeb would be around for a while.  Of course, if you don't upgrade to Mountain Lion I'm sure you could still use iWeb, but who wants to not upgrade?

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