Joeswell

Q: What happens to iWeb when there's no Mobile Me?

I was disappointed to learn that Apple will turn off Mobile Me next year. I'm a teacher and I liked using iWeb to create a small website for my classes (Homework, Activities,etc.). It was easy and the pages looked OK to me. I haven renewed my Mobile Me subscription when I bought a new iMac in January. Now I have to go through a bunch s__t to get a refund.

 

I am not interested in iClouds, iPhones, iPads, etc. I just don't want all the extra stuff. I just liked having an easy to post a website and create decent looking webpages.

 

You have to pay for iCloud, right? If I don't use and don't intend to use any iOS devices, what good is iCloud? Does it have any value?

 

What happens to my iDisk after June 30, 2012? Does it disappear?

 

Will iWeb be killed as well? I am told that you can publish webpages with iWeb to 3rd party sites, but if the application is no longer supported, it won't be long before it won't work correctly.

 

Are there any applications as good as and EASY as iWeb to use?

iBook G4 / iMacG4 / iMacG5 / / Mac Book Pro/ eMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 7:48 PM

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  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Aug 24, 2011 1:10 PM in response to Parrish Jones
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    Aug 24, 2011 1:10 PM in response to Parrish Jones

    Sorry for the spelling I am dislex..

     

    May I ask a rhetorical question:  If you have a program that dose what you want and that program runs on a OS that works why change/updrade if that change or upgrade will stop the program from working?

     

    Answers I can think of:

     

    1) There is no resion.

    2) You no longer need to use the program.

    3) Some one is holding a metaphorical gun to you.

     

    Some stupid questions:

     

    If/when Apple stop iWeb will my working install of iWeb stop working?

    Is Apple going to give an alternitive website bilding program?

    I know Apple are stopping "mobile me" infaver of "iCloud" is it that "iCloud" will not support iWeb? 

     

    I'm sorry if that sounds a bit harsh.

     

    Try sandvox http://www.karelia.com/

     

    Or OSX 4 or 5 or 6 running iweb in VMWare Fusion

  • by Wyodor,

    Wyodor Wyodor Aug 24, 2011 1:43 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Aug 24, 2011 1:43 PM in response to TopSteve

    Based on the current information, iCloud will not provide webhosting. With or without iWeb.

     

    So whatever application you use to create webpages, you'll have to find another webhost.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Aug 24, 2011 2:57 PM in response to Wyodor
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    Aug 24, 2011 2:57 PM in response to Wyodor

    Well there are meny webhosts out there that are much better and cheeper then MobileMe so the los of it in iCloud is not downer. 

     

    iWeb works with localhosts and ftp hosts so there's no problem with using other webhosts

  • by Parrish Jones,

    Parrish Jones Parrish Jones Aug 25, 2011 5:24 AM in response to Joeswell
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:24 AM in response to Joeswell

    I have used iWeb to build several websites and liked the way it worked. What I didn't like is the method of storing the information on my computer that resulted in the program not being able to find the websites after upgrades to OSX. It happend often. After Lion, I had a nightmare with  all kinds of stuff. I finally got around to trying to do a number of updates to my websites which are not on Mobile Me but an alternate host. They wrok fine and still do.

     

    HERE IS THE BIG PROBLEM! MobileME iCloud, alternate host. iWeb is no more. It already shows massive signs of neglect, but Apple does not plan to continue upgrading it. What we need is an alternate thet will be able to open and edit our iWeb, preferably an alternate that will be around a while.

     

    I spent hours reading discussions on how to get your sites back. I followed instructions tediously. Failing to succeed and I have TIme Machine Bakups to March which was well before my last updates to the sites. Nothing has worked. I called Apple. I was then informed that there will be no more iWeb. Online searches on the subject confirm this.

  • by KHvG,

    KHvG KHvG Aug 25, 2011 9:13 AM in response to Parrish Jones
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    Aug 25, 2011 9:13 AM in response to Parrish Jones

    I do agree with TopSteve that Sandvox is THE alternative. Why ? First of all because a lot of web hosts do not support iWeb for 100%, so some features will be lost, among which the hit counter. Secondly, because Sandvox is very much like iWeb (fool proof) and more advanced than iWeb. I always used iWeb, but I'm going to switch to Sandvox.

  • by josemari,

    josemari josemari Aug 25, 2011 12:57 PM in response to Parrish Jones
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:57 PM in response to Parrish Jones

    Well, iWeb is alive enough for me. Works great in my new mini with Lion and does exactly what I need it to do. Will it no longer be useful in the future? Yes, maybe. I'll switch then.

  • by Joeswell,

    Joeswell Joeswell Aug 25, 2011 5:00 PM in response to josemari
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:00 PM in response to josemari

    I am not going to upgrade until the iWeb issue is addressed... one way or the other.

     

    Why is Sandvox better than iWeb?

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Aug 26, 2011 1:29 AM in response to Joeswell
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    Aug 26, 2011 1:29 AM in response to Joeswell

    I'm not sure that Sandvox is any better than iWeb.  iWeb is more versatile and you can start with a blank page and create the look that you want, where is Sandvox you can't - you are stuck with using one of the templates and that's it.

  • by Alancito,

    Alancito Alancito Aug 26, 2011 3:37 AM in response to Joeswell
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:37 AM in response to Joeswell

    Joeswell wrote:

     

    Why is Sandvox better than iWeb?

    Whether Sandvox is considered "better" than iWeb depends on your particular needs. For example, if you appreciate the convenience of integrated SEO (Search Engine Optimization) for your business site, then you may consider Sandvox better. Or you may appreciate that, unlike iWeb, a Sandvox site's text responds to Safari's View > Zoom In command for visually impaired visitors. ...Here's what some iWeb graduates who now use Sandvox have to say:

    "I used iWeb, but all the things that took lots of time using iWeb, was just a click away using Sandvox. It is also a real experience changing the looks of your website with just one click of the mouse."

     

    "Originally, we used iWeb to develop our website. We came up with a nice clean website but found out that it was virtually invisible on the internet. We received a few quotes from SEO consultants and were astounded at their fees. So, we set out to develop our own SEO friendly site. Turns out Sandvox was the solution."

     

    "For a noobie (besides iWeb), what surprised me was that with each revision of my website, I kept discovering more and more features that I could incorporate that made my site better and better."

     

    "Well, as I have several websites online Sandvox for me is an easy way to administrate them — it's easier than iWeb."

     

    "I wanted to replace Apple's iWeb as my development tool of choice because I had reached the end of iWeb's capabilities and I was moving my site from Apple's MobileMe service to a dedicated site. I chose Sandvox because I felt that it gave me more control over other development tools and I have been able to create a site using a standard design, one that I can change without too many hassles."

     

    (Source)

    https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-15022477-1766/128-62/SigT.gif

  • by hughmass,

    hughmass hughmass Aug 26, 2011 4:19 AM in response to Joeswell
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    Aug 26, 2011 4:19 AM in response to Joeswell

    I switched. IWeb/Mobileme to SandVox/Machighway.

     

    Sandvox has custom banners, hierarchal menus, easy slideshows...stuff that one can do in iWeb but it isn't that easy. I am learning to love the template style as it requires me to stop just putting stuff on a page willy-nilly, and the new site is a lot neater, though it is now very obviously from a template.

    http://www.humanrightscity.com

    Hugh

  • by Rob Westle,

    Rob Westle Rob Westle Aug 26, 2011 9:05 AM in response to hughmass
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    Aug 26, 2011 9:05 AM in response to hughmass

    Hugh, thanks for posting your site. As I consider my options for my sites--everything from staying for awhile with iWeb to a new app, I always have difficulty "seeing" my site on the new apps. Oddly, your site has many of the features I'd be looking for. Which template did you use? By the way--if somebody fills out the contact sheet, does that go to you, or do you just develop/publish the site for others?

  • by josemari,

    josemari josemari Aug 26, 2011 11:22 AM in response to hughmass
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    Aug 26, 2011 11:22 AM in response to hughmass

    If Sandvox can produce something as elegant as this as quickly as iWeb does, I'll consider it when it's time to switch.

     

    http://edicionesdigitales.info/imagenes/imagenes/colibri.html

  • by JamesJM,

    JamesJM JamesJM Aug 26, 2011 11:29 AM in response to josemari
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    Aug 26, 2011 11:29 AM in response to josemari

    Nearly any website designing application will create an elegant site.  Easy depends on the user.  Some will find iWeb easiest, others Sandvox, others Rapidweaver, Freeway Express...

     

    The "elegant" comes from the person creating the site, I believe, more than the software.

     

    Nice site... and yes, you can do that with Sandvox, and Rapidweaver, et al. - JamesJM

  • by hughmass,

    hughmass hughmass Aug 26, 2011 12:44 PM in response to Rob Westle
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    Aug 26, 2011 12:44 PM in response to Rob Westle

    I believe I used the template Aurora Blue. My preference was Lake or Earth and Sky, as they have a wider page and a lighter blue, but I am doing the site with someone else, and while I do the site, he has the say on the final site, in effect the client.

    Truthfully, he has a much better sense of how things look to other people.

     

    The email goes to him. There is about the same learning curve with Sandvox as there is with iWeb. I love the custom banner, it gave me a chance to take a photo, turn it to b&w, crop it, and use it as a banner.

     

    When I get a chance I will make a couple of tutorials on Sandvox, and using it to switch from iWeb.

    Hugh

  • by Parrish Jones,

    Parrish Jones Parrish Jones Aug 27, 2011 6:38 AM in response to hughmass
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    Aug 27, 2011 6:38 AM in response to hughmass

    When you changed, was Sandvox able to adapt your iWeb or did you have to completely redo everything?

     

    I like not only the desing but the subject. Great content and design.

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