9 Replies Latest reply: Jun 10, 2011 9:58 PM by smithj12
msfeinstein Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Perhaps a bit premature, but I figure it's never too early to start planning. 

 

Here's our current setup - I currently have four iDevices in the faily (three iPhones and one iPod Touch.  All are syncing to the same Mac Mini, albeit with different logins (and different iTunes store ids).  All four of these are kept in sync via Home Sharing so we have access to the music/apps/etc acquired by the others.

 

Enter the iCloud - how does this fit in?  What's the *right* way to do this? 

 

I can see two options:

1)     Continue to utilize four iTunes store ids, sync them via Home Sharing and add four iClouds

     Advantages

          totally independent devices, users, etc.

     Disadvantages

          must pay for four "iTunes Match" services to access non-iTunes music on each of the four devices

          will iTunes-purchased music automaticaly sync to iCloud if it is shared via Home Sharing (or only by the original purchaser)?

 

2)     Use one iTunes Store id for all iDevices

     Advantages

          single point of acquisition and distribution for all devices

     Disadvantages

          need to find a way to merge IDs (is this even possible?)

 

Are there other advantages/disadvantages to these options?  Are there other options?  What's the easiest to set up and support?  Any other thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance for your input.

  • eugeneyk Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    You can still sync to your Mac Mini to sync via USB or now even over wifi.

    iTunes Match seems to be only for people who have music that haven't been purchased from iTunes, but now want to go PC free. Without streaming from iCloud, I see no other use for iTunes Match unless you are the sort of person that has a HUGE non-iTunes library that you can't possibly sync to your device, but also want to listen to songs in that library spontaneously away from your Mac and want it right now.  

  • msfeinstein Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I suppose I should add a bit more "color" here as for my motivation.

     

    The vast majority of my music (~10K tracks) is not iTunes-purchased - it is ripped from years (and years and years) of CDs

    I hate the fact that I currently have four copies of everthing on my Mac.  It takes up way too much disk space, etc.

    There are instances of duplicate purchasing (I buy something, my wife buys something -- before we share)

    Home Sharing isn't perfect, as it only automagically syncs iTunes-purchased stuff (I have to manually search for other music).

  • eugeneyk Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Well it seems like the first thing you should do is consolidate your iTunes libraries so that you don't have 4 copies of everything, one for each user logged in to your Mac Mini. How you do that is consolidate all 4 iTunes folders to one folder located in the /Users/Shared/ folder and update each of your iTunes to point to that folder accordingly. That way you have one iTunes library, only one copy of your media, but accessible from multiple users.

     

    One caveat is that if somebody is logged on and has iTunes open, you can't fast switch to another user and open iTunes. Apple made it so that only one user and one instance of iTunes can open a iTunes library at a time.

     

    For your iTunes match situation, it does sound like you would be much better off sharing a single Apple ID with one iTunes Match. For consolidating, make sure you have everything everybody has shared via Home Sharing to the main account you'd like to move over to, and then simply go to each device Settings, Store, and the sign out of the original Apple ID and logon using the shared main Apple ID. I just looked at it and the automatic downloading is already live in iOS! You can specify if you want to do music, apps, and books separately in case you may want to automatically download music but not apps or books.

  • neilnottm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi.

     

    I have been thinking long and hard regarding my concerns with having multiple iTunes accounts (3 in fact, built up over many years) and how I can merge them all into one iTunes account and then it dawned on me that this is possibly where iTunes match will come into its own and resolve this for me. I am thinking that I would need to log into each iTunes account and ensure that I have all the music, apps, books etc that isnt in my library downloaded, repeat this for each account, This would need to be done prior to signing up for iCloud.

     

    Once I have done this, I would log into my iTunes account that I want to be the primary and then sign up for iCloud, I would then sign up for iTunes match which would scan all content in my library (not purchased from my primary iTunes account - I am hoping it would include the music downloaded from my other 2 iTunes accounts). If it does do this then I can disable my other 2 accounts and I have all music, apps, books, films etc on one iTunes account up in the cloud.

     

    If anyone thinks this will not work then can you let me know.

     

    Thanks


    Neil

  • msfeinstein Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Neil - I've had similar thoughts.  I think the place it doesn't work is with the apps/music/etc that were originally purchased by the other accounts.  I believe you have to keep those "active" (and remember the passwords, etc) so you can continue to update/re-download them.

  • neilnottm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi again,

     

    I was wondering where you have read that previously purchased content from other iTunes libraries will not be included in the iTunes match service? It would be a shame if this was true, as I understand that this is a big issue with a number of users and seeing as iTunes match is effectively a pirate music amnesty I would have thought that they would let us do this with music we have purchased.

     

    Thanks

     

    Neil

  • msfeinstein Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hadn't read anything official - just inferring from other threads and the Apple response when I asked about combining accounts.  I suppose the end result is that we'll have to wait and see...

  • eugeneyk Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    I'm actually going to guess that any music shared via Home Sharing in iTunes will be treated like regular purchased music and be available in iCloud automatically, without the need for iTunes Match. Hopefully they'll address this issue when it comes out officially.    

  • smithj12 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Having only one library among multiple users can be very annoying. I would actually suggest the way I have my iTunes libraries configured. I have an iMac and a MacBook Pro. My wife and I each have a login on each machine. The iMac acts as our household media server. We also each have an iPhone and we have an iPad 2. All of these devices share one iTunes account. In order to allow each of us to have our individual libraries, I configured iTunes such that the music, movies, etc. are not managed within the library. I keep all media under Users/Shared and point each library to this location. That way both libraries can be open at the same time while having only one copy of all the files. I do however have a shared iPhoto library in Users/Shared simply because I prefer to have iPhoto manage the file structure of my photos. But in that case, I can only have one instance of the library running. Hope this suggestion helps. I do however fear that this setup will not work well when iCloud comes. I don't know if apple has addressed multiple users devices and computer logins that use one iTunes account.