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Q: Diagnostic Mode, My iPod Classic doesn't have a FW Jack

Hi,

 

I'm experiancing a problem with my iPod Classic 6th Generation. I beleive (due to some research) that it may have some bad sectors because it repetitavely crashes iTunes during sync on random songs. I tried doing it in small chunks but it didn't seem to make a difference.

 

I tried Diagnostic Mode and I have gotten to the point where it's at the Accessorize Test. It says on the screen;

 

LCD=2

 

FW_DETECT=0

USB_DETECT=1

Please plug FW

 

I beleive FW means Fire Wire but I have no signs of a Fire Wire jack. I've tried everything and I'm stuck on this part.

 

Any help appreciated, I just don't want to know if you're having the same experiances as me

 

Thanks,

Zach

iPod classic, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Jun 10, 2011 8:56 AM

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  • by SandraHoutz,

    SandraHoutz SandraHoutz Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM in response to SandraHoutz
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    Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM in response to SandraHoutz

    okay working on it right now ... hope this doesn't sound stupid ... once that "Transfer" playlist is done ... should I delete it and create another ... the question is how will the ipod "know" to pick the next songs?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM in response to SandraHoutz
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    Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM in response to SandraHoutz

    If your iPod has room for everything then you can change the options accordingly and delete the redundant playlist. Alternatively just change the name to something you prefer, like "Sandra's iPod Tunes".

     

    tt2

  • by SandraHoutz,

    SandraHoutz SandraHoutz Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM in response to SandraHoutz
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    Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM in response to SandraHoutz

    still got stuck any other thoughts or should I quit working with it and get another?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 10, 2012 12:08 PM in response to SandraHoutz
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    Feb 10, 2012 12:08 PM in response to SandraHoutz

    Then the chances are that the drive has had it. They don't last forever. Probably time to think about a replacement, though you might want to consider whether you want to replace it with another hard drive model or something like an iPod touch that has solid state memory.

     

    tt2

  • by SandraHoutz,

    SandraHoutz SandraHoutz Feb 10, 2012 12:28 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Feb 10, 2012 12:28 PM in response to turingtest2

    that's what I am figuring at this point and I'm tired of fighting with it ... lol .... I really appreciate all your help though!

  • by venno12,

    venno12 venno12 Feb 13, 2012 11:55 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Feb 13, 2012 11:55 AM in response to turingtest2

    I have a similar problem with my IPod 6gen 80gb. I bought it second hand and it worked fine for a year, but today I dropped it. It wasn't high or anything but after that it turned really slow. It still plays most songs, with others it loads for a while and then skips. If i connect it to my PC it will show the ipod in my computer, but I can't do anything with it. And PC goes really slow. Itunes won't recognize it, floola won't, I can't open the Ipod from my computer or even right click the icon. Also the Ipod now shows i have only 200MB of free space, but I had like 40 GB before and everytime I disconnect from the PC the Ipod restarts and goes to original settings.

    On top of all that the hardrive started making a lot more noise, similar to normal but repeatedly and sometimes a high pitch buzz.

        A lot of details, but I just wanna be precise.

     

        I did the diagnosis:

     

    Retracts: 9

    Reallocs: 72

    Pending Sectors: 72

    PowerOn Hours: 225

    Start/Stops: 12783

    Temp Current: 27

    Temp Min: 5

    Temp Max: 54

     

    I've got a bad feeling about this....

  • by SandraHoutz,

    SandraHoutz SandraHoutz Feb 13, 2012 1:06 PM in response to venno12
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    Feb 13, 2012 1:06 PM in response to venno12

    Sorry to hear I gave up on mine and went to EBay and picked up a new one there ... I was tired of fighting with mine ... anyplace to re-sell them?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 13, 2012 2:45 PM in response to venno12
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    Feb 13, 2012 2:45 PM in response to venno12

    I think your history and other symptoms paint a fairly clear picture even if the current level of pending/reallocs isn't that high. Probably time to call it a day on this one. IIRC 54deg is outside the design operating temp. range.

     

    tt2

  • by das_ist,

    das_ist das_ist Mar 18, 2012 12:35 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Mar 18, 2012 12:35 PM in response to turingtest2

    retracts :15

    reallocs  0

    Pending sectors :1

    power on hours 74

    start/stops 24098

     

    My ipod video 5G keeps freezing while im listening to songs, but carrys on playing songs again after a few seconds. Already reformatted it and resynced it and still doing it.

     

    any suggestions please?

     

    thanks

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 18, 2012 1:03 PM in response to das_ist
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:03 PM in response to das_ist

    I can't say for certain, but your symptoms would suggest that sometimes it is taking the iPod a few goes to read the next chunk of data. It is not so bad that it can't read the data at all which is why your stats don't look that bad, but they don't always read at the first attempt causing the delay. If the drive is highly fragmented that can also intoduce delays into the reading process.

     

    tt2

  • by das_ist,

    das_ist das_ist Mar 18, 2012 1:28 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:28 PM in response to turingtest2

    Ok, suspected faulty HD? Could it be a logic board causing the issue? See below.

     

    Ok so initially i was having a problem with my ipod and lack of sound in one earphone. Checked different earphones and still same problem.

     

    Bought a new back plate with audio jack and battery in etc and installed. But in doing so broke the connector attaching it to the logic board. worked ok for a week but eventually failed. Suspected due to logic board so bought a new one and installed.

    after new logic board installed everything was working fine, sound in both ears, but ipod was operating abit slower than usual and would randomly freeze during songs and then continue playing again.

    Im assuming its the logic board rather than the hard drive as the hard drive was working fine before new logic board was installed.

     

    Thanks for your advice

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 18, 2012 4:22 PM in response to das_ist
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    Mar 18, 2012 4:22 PM in response to das_ist

    If the HD is really on the way out I'd expect to see more obvious signs with lots of pending sectors, or lots of reallocs following a format. Can't say I've any experience with changing logic boards. Swapped out a few batteries on 5th gen. ages ago which went OK, but the kids managed to drown one and drop the other since then.

     

    tt2

  • by MAC book pro user thats not so pro,

    MAC book pro user thats not so pro MAC book pro user thats not so pro Mar 21, 2012 5:27 PM in response to ZUsher
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    Mar 21, 2012 5:27 PM in response to ZUsher

    my numbers:

    Retracts; 1

    Reallocs: 0

    Pending Sectors: 296

    PowerOn Hours: 23

    Start/Stops: 4514

    Temp: Current 29c

    Temp: Min 14c

    Temp: Max 53c

     

    My ipod classic is only a year old!! I live in saudi Arabia... so could hot temperatures affect this? I have a mac book pro and when i plug my ipod in the ipod says that it is connected but when i look at my computer it doesnt show up! and it doenst show up in itunes either!!! WHAT should i do!!?? The ipod plays perfect i can listen to music and charge it I just cant add new music because it wont show up!!!

  • by gautamfromsheffield,

    gautamfromsheffield gautamfromsheffield Apr 28, 2012 10:04 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Apr 28, 2012 10:04 AM in response to turingtest2

    hi

    i did the manual diagnostic on my ipod classic 20gb 4th generation

    it shows that

     

    retracts - 381

    realloc - 253

    pending - 663

     

    the HDD scan - says PASS 19gb    

     

    when i try to format/erase the disk using my mac - it say either teh disk is not mountable in FAT 32 format, or no STAT disk in mac os extended format.

     

    i dont know whats going on, can you guide me .

     

    cheers      

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Apr 28, 2012 10:10 AM in response to gautamfromsheffield
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    Apr 28, 2012 10:10 AM in response to gautamfromsheffield

    It has probably had it...

     

    You could see if a friend with a PC has any more luck formatting it.

     

    tt2

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