can i use a bluetooth mouse with ipad

No dream necessary, it keys off the microSIM. If you did a search here you will find lots of threads where people have purchased the iPad here, returned to their home country, put in the microSIM from the provider of their choice and signed up for service. Others have traveled abroad and acquired microSIMs from the country they are in and signed up. No different than an unlocked GSM smartphone. No magic, no dreaming. You don't really think Apple makes 100 or more different iPads for every GSM provider do you?

mosquitoguy wrote:

@deggie

I click "View account" on my 3G iPad, and I see the AT&T Logo ("Rethink Possible.")

This is not an "AT&T iPad"? 🙂 You mean the logo will change to Vodafone when I insert a Vodafone UK simcard? Wonderful! Keep dreaming.

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Strangely enough, that is exactly what happens. Put in a Bell Canada SIM, guess what it might say. Put in a Telus Canada SIM, guess what it might say?

Stedman

@deggie

No, apple doesn't make different ipads for every GSM carrier. I think the firmware you download when you activate your ipad is keyed to a specific carrier. Once you activate your ipad on a specific carrier, it's locked to that carrier's band... i.e. once you activate it on AT&T, it works on AT&T's AWS band and if you take it to Europe, it doesn't work on UMTS band.

But as Stedman says, if he knows for a fact that the logo "magically" changes when you insert a different simcard, then I stand corrected. This sounds like nonsense to me. In order for this to happen, the firmware would need to include a database of all the world's carriers and their web service portals, including their logos and APN in order to properly connect to 3G service.

Do you have an iPad with 3G? Did you buy it in the US? If you did that is why when you go to cellular data it displays AT&T as it came with an AT&T Sim. It is not hard on the SIM to have the logo/information that is used by Apples iOS. It also is not hard to include all of their official partner cell providers in the software, doesn't take up much space at all. I'm guessing that you are not a programmer.

Again, if you take a bit of time within this Forum it is not difficult whatsoever to find posts, as I've already told you several times, from people who purchased their iPad here and took it to other countries and used it with a microSIM there from another cell provider. You can also find people who live here and traveled overseas and used their US iPad with microSIMs from European (and other) cell providers. Apparently all of the people who have posted that, like Stedman and myself, are dreaming. And the iPad is not locked whatsoever, just like you can now buy an iPhone at the Apple Store in the US that is not locked. And no, when you activate it, it does not download firmware.

@deggie

I've no doubt you can buy the ipad here and use it overseas and vice-versa. The question is whether US bought iPads works in 3G in Europe (and vice-versa). When I tether my iPOD to my blackberry, it shows "3G" in the upper left corner even though my blackberry runs in EDGE. Clearly, the iOS software doesn't know for a fact what network its connected to--- it thinks ANY internet connection is "3G."

I suspect this is the reason why so many initial AT&T iPhone customers were dissatisfied with their data service. Their iPhones show "3G" coverage when in fact the phone is in EDGE most of the time and the software isn't telling the truth. The only way you know for sure whether you're in 3G coverage is to run a speed test.

You're arguing that the iPad is a multiband device that can switch between AWS (3G AT&T) and IMT (3G UMTS). I don't believe this simply because it's more expensive to pack an integrated radio circuit that can seamlessly switch 3G bands -- I'm not aware of any phones that can do this. Most likely, the iPad has two radio circuits there-- one for Europe/Asia and one for Americas, and which one gets activated depends on how the iPad is activated. I even suspect that the iPads sold in the U.S. here aren't even 2100-capable (i.e. they always use GPRS/EDGE overseas even when the OS shows "3G" on the device). The only way of verifying that is to take an "AT&T iPad" to Japan, where they use 2100 even for their voice channel.

As far as your simcard theory... I'll let you to your own imagination. 🙂

Were you unable to read the iPad 3G specifications that I posted above? The chipset in the iPad WiFi+3G and the iPhone are multiband global chipsets. They've been around for a long time now and many phone manufacturers use them, usually purchasing them from the same companies as Apple. No magic involved at all.

As to your tethering, the dispay on the iPad will not read how your BB is connected, it only reads what the internal chipset is seeing. And no, this is not why customers were dissatisified, actual channel congestion caused, and still causes, that. The display will correctly show what type of connection you have.

If you aren't aware of an multiband devices then again you don't keep up much. I have a cousin who travels the world as an agricultural consultant, he has used global, or multiband, phones for many years now. It is no new thing at all. They do not have mulitple circuits. And they will work with all the providers in the list that I gave you before. The GSM iPad will not work on CDMA systems which are used in 40 countries. If I had the money I would send you on a trip to Europe with your iPad so you could see the "magic" of changing the microSIM, it is the only way I think you would be convinced.

BTW, here are the specs for the chip used in the iPhone:

GSM model: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

Note that it is multiband also (same chipset as the iPad in fact). Just so you'll know I got that from here:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

@deggie

Learn to read through marketing. Look at the specs:

GSM model: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);

GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

There are TWO sets of specs there. The first spec is European 3G. The second spec is AT&T 3G. If you bought a US iPad, then you probably got the second radio without the 2100 band. A single radio supporting all frequencies would've simply been written as:

(850, 900, 1800, 1900, 2100).

which is a 5-band radio circuit. Like I said, I haven't seen multi-band 3G devices (i.e. by this I mean more than one 3G band)... virtually all phones today are quad-band at most.

sheesh why am I wasting time explaining this to you? 🙂 think whatever you want if it makes you feel good about it kid.

No, there isn't

Frankly you aren't smart enough to argue about this with. I'm done.

Actually the Nokia N8 is a true 5-band phone:

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n8/specifications

• GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
• WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
• Automatic switching between WCDMA & GSM bands

this phone will run 3G in both US (AT&T) and Europe.

Hi All, I thought I'd get this post back on track. I decided on an iPad for travel as it's so light and half the price of a Macbook Air. I love my 27inch iMac at work and now love the iPad for home and especialy travel. One issue, I needed to do some spreadsheet work remotely using a program called LogmeIn. This program allows me to control my iMac from, in this case China...and struggled badly, I needed a mouse. I think this functionality should be allowed for those that need it. I understand that an iPad can't be everything and neither can a laptop, it was just something that I needed at the time from my iPad and was a little frustrated as there was no workaround apart from using another computer, still love it!

Submit your feedback to Apple:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

as my friend told me it can be use but you have to JB your iPad. On my case I did not and I won't JB my iPad.

Meg St._Clair You gotta be having a laugh. This post was started July 2011, and many responses deleted because they mentioned that the functionality is clearly present but disabled (deleted due to the words mentioned above). My posts were deleted same day so we do know Apple are aware of this 'user requirement'. It's a serious feature for business users to control their remote PC and I personally dont know why it's not supported. It's not as if anyone is saying you would need to use it; just have it as an option. What's the harm in asking?

Next best thing is a stylus which at least gets you some control without jumping from keyboard, touch, and pointer modes (in citrix anyway).

You are confusing "user requirement" with what you perceive as a need for you.

pj-mckay wrote:

Meg St._Clair You gotta be having a laugh.

I really have no idea what you're talking about. I gave a simple suggestion to someone who posted in a long deat thread. I really have no feelings about the matter one way or the other, except to agree with deggie that you don't speak for everyone. I've no need of a mouse on my iPad.

Best of luck.