iTunes vs Napster

I know we all have our prefrences but I was wondering when will iTunes and Napster finally open up to allow users of other portable music devices to use there sites for downloading?

I personally like Napsters music library, I feel it is much more advanced than iTunes - however I think iTunes could offer more - the UK sites certainly lacks a great deal compared with that seen in the US - sadly for me I can't buy from the US site. I know agreements/copy right issues exist but I am puzzled as to how Napster can offer so much regardless of being in the UK or the US compared to that of iTunes.

Any thoughts?

Posted on Jan 12, 2006 9:00 AM

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Jan 12, 2006 2:54 PM in response to Rachyl

Rachyl

This is why I am puzzled.

Napster has managed to secure the rights to a lot more than iTunes for the UK/world market - why has iTunes not? I do understand the issues regarding copyright law but if one company (whom I believed to be American owned) can then why can't iTunes?

This provides Napster with an advantage which surely places iTunes in a difficult position and places a restriction on iTunes in such away that they are losing a lot of potentially new customers. Napster on the other hand are more open to various products of portable devices - I believe it would be in the interest of iTunes to open up to those that may not have an iPod device - by doing so would perhaps encourage more to buy an iPod and at the same time giving freedom as to where people decide where they wish to purchase their music.

Jan 12, 2006 3:19 PM in response to Leu

There are any number of reasons why a track might be in Napster and not in the iTMS. The artist or record company may have signed an exclusive deal with Napster, or the artist/record company may not like the terms the iTMS offers, or they may just not have gotten around to striking a deal with the iTMS yet. We're all just your fellow users here, so none of us have any special knowledge of why a given artist or track isn't on the iTMS, so all we can do is guess. I can guarantee you, though, that if an artist or track isn't in the iTMS, it isn't because Apple doesn't want them there.

Jan 12, 2006 4:11 PM in response to varjak paw

Dave

Thanks for your comments. I am aware that none of us, may not, have any special knowledge but thought it was worth some discussion and some thoughts on this issue.

I think events of the last few years funny - wasn't Napster a site where it illegally allowed file sharing/downloads (?) - look where its at compared with some other sites - amazing at what they have achieved - note: I don't mean that as a reflection on iTunes....I like iTunes....it updates my iPod ;o)

Jan 13, 2006 7:37 AM in response to Leu

wasn't Napster a site where it illegally allowed file sharing/downloads (?) - look where its at compared with some other sites - amazing at what they have achieved

The original company named Napster was, yes. The current Napster is a completely different company, bearing only the name in common with the previous incarnation (the current company bought the rights to use the name in a "firesale" dissolution of the original company's assets, if I'm remembering correctly).

Jan 13, 2006 11:20 AM in response to Leu

I'll chime in on this one, not normally a chimer 🙂 - But I think you basically answered your own question if you think about it, because you're not the only one that remembers that. 😉

As well known as ITunes may be, I think the answer to why Napster may have a larger licensed market in the music industry is because of how well its name became as being a former illegal peer-to-peer network, being the first of its kind to be sued by the music industry in an explosive and well-monitored series of court proceedings - and therefore, in rectifying themselves came to agreement with a large majority of the incredibly long list of involved production companies (whom were in the suit) into legally selling their music, and got themselves a ton of license agreements. Basically the lawsuit, even tho the settlement went against them via a substantial request for monetary reimbursement - it left their foot in all of those companies doors worldwide when it came time to turnaround and legally sell their music and obtain the licensing.

That, in addition to the loyalist factor, they simply became a well-known name - discussed at every dinner table to office space - and it gave them quite an advantage as well from a martketing standpoint. Bad publicity is still, publicity. Free advertising. 😉

I think iTunes however, has got the hold of the portable music player market still. Somewhat how you'd call every portable tape or cd player a Walkman, a portable mp3/music player these days you call an iPod. And as much as others are pimping out their portable players, the iPod i believe is still what will eventually pull iTunes along as the leader in digital music stores. Which will in turn pull in more licensing, the more popular it becomes. Because what do you use for your iPod? iTunes.

Which is why it may be they dont want other players to work w/iTunes. Don't want to break up that marriage. Dominate the portable market w/iPod, iTunes will follow right behind.

Now, what both companies need to worry about are technical issues and application errors and rights protection issues before it harms the market and starts a reverse effect.

Jan 13, 2006 2:59 PM in response to DJ X

DJX77 - thanks for your great post. Call me naive, perhaps, but before I had an iPod I assumed, as a not well informed consumer, that music could be downloaded to any player from any music site - it just happened to be that iTunes and iPod were/are related together. It wasn't until I actually got an iPod that I realised that this wasn't the case and restrictions applied, admittedly this is not only with ipods/iTunes but on other services as well but not so much.

I was disappointed by this since I found fab music on both sites (itunes/Napster) but felt cheated that I didn't have that option as to who will top up my portable player. I can't imagine I am the only one that feels this way - as seen here on the discussion boards people would prefer the market to open up to allow that choice - if this wasn't the case then some here would not be discussing collecting of music in other ways.

I agree that the iPod has dominated the portable market but Apple must also realise that there will be a peak and when that is reached people will turn and realise that other portable devices are around but with much less restrictions in place than found with the iPod. It'll be then that Apple will have left it too late to do anything about. I certainly don't want to feel negative towards apple/iPod or iTunes - it has much to offer, much more than many other portable devices but people want choice - people very much dislike to be restricted. Sadly though I don't feel so positive in that iTunes will lead the way in digital stores, personally I think it'll suffer if it doesn't allow itself to open up a little more.

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