HD to SD Conversion

Hello!


So i'm trying to figure out the best way to downconvert my 1920x1080 60i footage to SD DVD. Exporting at full res out of FCP and importing to compressor and using the DVD best settings doesn't really cut it.


I read up and found many people mentioned creating a SD sequence in Final Cut then dropping the HD sequence into the SD sequence and exporting in SD.


The problem is, I create the new sequence (DV 3:2 or DV 4:3? Field dominance upper, lower, none?) but when I drop the HD sequence into the SD sequence, Final Cut wants to adjust the sequence to match the HD one.


Does anyone have any tips for downconverting to SD within Final Cut? I would then import to compressor and convert to DVD compatible files without having to DOWNCONVERT, which i believe is where the quality is being lost within Compressor

Final Cut Studio '09, Mac OS X (10.6.7), MBP 2.53 ghz 15inch 500gb 4gb ram

Posted on Jun 16, 2011 10:13 PM

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Jun 16, 2011 11:20 PM in response to danwayfilms

Every sitatuion is different, but this is what I find seems to work best:


Duplicate your sequence, set the field dominance to NONE (in the sequence settings, command-0) and render. Then export a qt movie with current settings (either self contained or refernce) and bring that into Compressor, where you then apply the DVD SD preset that best applies to your time...


Then in DVD SP, makse sure your settings is for 16:9...

Jun 17, 2011 7:36 AM in response to Christina Rodriguez

Christina's workflow is a good one, but watch out if your media is not Field Dominance: None.


If the media's field dominance does not match the setting of the sequence, FCP will line double the media, especially in transitions or other rendered effects, resulting in a loss of half your vertical resolution.


She's also right about using Compressor - I've had the best results using Compressor to downconvert for me.

Jun 17, 2011 7:41 AM in response to danwayfilms

My current workflow for SD downconversion.:

Export to Quicktime movie, self contained movie, current project settings - don't choose the DV codec, keep it as PR422.

Open the file in MPEG Streamclip.
 Export to Quicktime PR422 (NOT DV), max quality, better Downscaling, Deinterlace Video, upper field Dom.

Cropping: 9 on the L & R. This will prevent small black bars from appearing due to the aspect ratio conversion.

Now you basically have a good anamorphic SD 10 bit ProRes file.


I then use Bitvice to create the M2v. Deselect "interlaced input" and select 16x9 display.


I know that many will argue that using BV is not necessary since compressor comes with FCS but I purchased Bitvice several years ago when I was having problems with compressor and Bitvice turned out to be the better compressor at that time. Give Compressor a try if you don't want to invest in BV. Especially since I believe that the Mpeg Streamclip downconversion to PR422 is the most important step.


best,

g

Jun 17, 2011 7:46 AM in response to Christina Rodriguez

Thanks, but that gives me an old issue that was never really resolved.


By setting the field dominance to none, it messed up ALL transitions (and Opacity fade in-fade outs) by making the video "jump" zoom in a tiny, but noticeable amount, at the start of the transition, and then "jump" zoom out when the transition in complete.


I have no idea why this happens, other than it doesn't like the fact that my 60i footage is now set to have no field dominance.


It doesn't do this within FCP, only in the exported clip.

Jun 18, 2011 8:30 PM in response to Goldfish

Okay i've tried Bitvice (No watermark is the data rate is above 6.5mbits!), and so far it has blown compressor out of the water in terms of creating the .m2v files. The video quality is much improved over anything compressor has shot out.


But that has left me greedy for more. The quality is much better, but there are still some compression artifacts and much more noticeable background noise that isn't present at all in the SD Prores version i brought out of Mpeg streamclip.


Are there any additional settings you use to further improve quality?


Thanks

Jun 19, 2011 7:29 AM in response to danwayfilms

You didn't mention whether or not you changed the default settings.

But the first thing I do is increase the Average data rate to 6.5 and then DE-crease the max back down to 8.25 ( when you increase average the Max setting goes up too high - don't exceed 8.25)


Other settings that may improve the image are:

- Video Purifier for noise reduction - use it sparingly, a little goes a long way.

- IntraDC - I increase that to 9. not much more benefit to 10 considering the render time.

- spatio - Spatial processing and blurs. I haven't felt the need to use this but have read positive things on the forum by users with problematic footage.


Of course, any changes that you make to the default settings will increase render time and possibly increase file size. But they openly admit the the defaults produce a VERY basic result. So if you were happy right out of the gate things will only get better.


I recommend cutting a 2 minute clip of some semi difficult footage to do your tests. You'll need to waste a few DVDs but in the end you'll have a better handle on what works.


best

g

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