14 Replies Latest reply: Apr 3, 2006 5:19 PM by Michael Hesson
Doug Hirzel Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
Apple's web site lists the minimum system requirements for KN3 as a G4 or better. However, one worker at Macworld thought it might still function on older machines that run version 2 but he couldn't guarantee/support it. Has anyone been successful at running KN3 on an older machine (e.g. 800 MHz G3 iBook)?

   

   
  • Joel Nelson Level 3 Level 3 (900 points)
    I am wondering the same thing as I have a G3 800 MHz iBook. I ordered a copy of both iWork and iLife... both should arrive Saturday. I guess if nobody else posts a response I'll write in to share what I discover when I try to install the software.
  • Michael Hesson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I'd be very curious to know, too. I can't run some transitions on my g3 iBook, which is what I do most of my presentations with, but I'd like to have some of the new themes and the ability to design fancier presentations on my iMac.
  • Andrew Cohill Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I've been looking all over for the answer to this question. I can understand that you would need 32 meg of VRAM for some of Keynote's new visual effects, but I can't understand why that requirement would be applied to Pages as well, or even why it would be applied categorically to Keynote. I use Keynote heavily on a 500 Mhz iBook. It works fine, and I know I can't use most of the slide transitions because they don't look good. So why not continue with that approach.

    Of course Apple wants us all to buy new laptops, but surely it is obvious many of us can't or won't do this immediately, and it would only hurt iWork sales.
  • Joel Nelson Level 3 Level 3 (900 points)
    I received my copy of iWork '06 and am using Pages and Keynote with no problems on my 800 MHz iBook. It does have 32 MB VRAM... Keynote probably wouldn't do well with 16 MB VRAM. To install iWork you have to either install it on a G4 and then move the files over (not copy unless you have multiple licenses), or else use Pacifist to extract the applications from the setup packages.
  • Doug Hirzel Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Joel, do most of the transitions work acceptably or are any more greyed out like the Flash and Burn options from KN2? It looks like we have the same model iBook so I'm curious about any noticeable performance hits that the new version brings.
  • Joel Nelson Level 3 Level 3 (900 points)
    I'll check the transition options in my version of Keynote tomorrow and will post the results.
  • Joel Nelson Level 3 Level 3 (900 points)
    All but one transition works. See screenshot at http://www.joelwnelson.com/img_store/Picture%201.png .
  • Michael Hesson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Joel, Did you also upgrade to iLife '06 as well? I ask because I wonder if there are any incompatibilites between, for example iPhoto 05 and KN3 (like when using the Media Inspector to bring photos in from iPhoto to a presentation). Have you tried something like that yet?

    iBook, dual usb, 500mhz G3, 640mbRAM, airport; iMac G5 iSight, 2.1ghz, 1 Gb RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.4)  
  • Joel Nelson Level 3 Level 3 (900 points)
    No problems importing from the Media Browser for me, although I am using iPhoto '06. Since the library format changed somewhat between iPhoto '05 and iPhoto '06, I understand how there could be trouble between KN3 and IP5.
  • Gerry Straathof Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)
    You may find that the posted limmitation is so they don't give people the right to say "Pages is slow on my G3" which it would be.

    Heck, applying a 3d graph on my new imac takes a second or two.

    I've used Pages with a G4 ibook all last year, mostly playing and experimenting. It was dogged slow and required the patience of Job (no, not Steve, the other guy) to use.

    I can only imagine what it would be like waiting forever for a change on a G3 ibook. There has to be a line for modern programs. That line has advanced past your current hardware.
  • Pedro Alves Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Hi
    I really would like to know if you suggest to install keynote in my Ibook G3 700 mhz as alternative to Powerpoint.
    Could you provide me some clues

    Thanks

    Pedro
  • Michael Hesson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I think Keynote is a good alternative to Powerpoint. Although I use both, I feel like Keynote is easier to design simple presentations with.
  • Pedro Alves Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    But, concerning the power of my ibook should I try keynote 2 or keynote 3. Are the features of keynote 3 so different of keynote 2 to consider the last version, considering that fancy transitions are not critical for the purposes of my work. ( I do research, and I only apply transitions of particular objects within the same slide, such as hide/show cycles).
    Thanks and best regards

    Pedro
  • Michael Hesson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I'm not sure...I haven't tried Keynote 3 on any of my machines yet, but my impression from reading other posts in this group and elsewhere is that you won't be able to take full advantage of the upgrade from KN 2 to KN 3 because of the G3 processor and video card. So, you might get an extra theme or maybe another transition or two out of KN 3, and you might get to take advantage of interleaved builds, but there will still be transitions that won't work, or that will run too slow on your G3 to be useful. That's my impression, anyway. I'm kind of hoping to get a Macbook Pro, at which point I will seriously consider upgrading. For right now, I just do basic presentations (college lectures) and KN 2 seems to be enough.

    iBook, dual usb, 500mhz G3, 640mbRAM, airport; iMac G5 iSight, 2.1ghz, 1 Gb RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.4)