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Can I clone and transfer from the internal hard drive to an external hard drive ?

I got an intel duo iMac, the machine is very good even if it is almost 3 years old. But with the internal hard drive having 320 Gb I am running out of hard drive space. I have looked into changing the internal hard drive but that involves having to send the machine away to have that done. So I was wondering if I could just transfer all the Mac OS X and all the applications and settings within three user accounts to say a 2 TB external hard drive, and boot from that, using cloning software.

Alternatively, is there a way to transfer the iPhoto and iMovie libraries to an external hard drive. That would free up space. I do not know how, if that is possible, although I have managed that with iTunes. My iMac is running Snow Leopard.

Regards from John5801

Posted on Jun 20, 2011 1:01 AM

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Jun 20, 2011 6:34 AM in response to john5801

Hi John,


Recently went through the same situation. I cloned the iMac using the SuperDuper!.app free version that only allows a complete and identical clone to the external drive or other Mac. Was so impressed with the results that I then bought the full version so that I could do incremental updates without needing to wait the length of time for a full rewrite.


When my wife went on a business trip we cloned her 24" iMac to a MacBook Pro. Believe me, the clone was identical. She works her computer intensely and if anything had been out of place I would have heard about it.


Hope that helps.

Jun 20, 2011 7:01 AM in response to john5801

John, just to add a few thoughts...


Use the free version first. Initially, you'll have to go through the full cloning to start with anyway. And, that way you can try it to see if it matches your needs.


And yes, the SuperDuper! clone can be launched and operated from the external drive completely independently so you might check and see if the speed of your USB/Firewire connection is adequate for normal usage. My guess is it will be.


One last thing I can think of is that with SuperDuper! you can clone back to any new internal drive that you might install in the future, because the SuperDuper! app is cloned over with everything else.


Again, hope that helped.

Jun 26, 2011 12:43 AM in response to john5801

Nearly ready to buy the external hard drive now, just need to investigate somehow if I can get away with an USB2 drive, or does it have to be firewire. My mac is Intel duo. Superduper! recommends a firewire (have already downloaded the free version), but have anyone out there got away with booting from an USB external drive on an Intel Duo machine after cloning ?

Jun 26, 2011 5:59 AM in response to john5801

John,


USB should be fine for general computer use, but media may add a little too much for the sustained rate that USB2 provides. In a previous career I did a lot of video editing. Firewire was much preferred in that task because of its stability at higher rates. I can see why the SuperDuper! people might suggest it.


When I cloned the wife's iMac, I had replaced the HDD on the MacBook Pro with a USB pocket drive that I've kept the original MacBook's installation mounted on. I've booted directly to that external drive, so you should be okay if you can make the clone across the USB. When I cloned the wife's machine I booted the MacBook Pro with a fresh HDD in Firewire target mode and connected it as an external Firewire 800 drive. Firewire 800 is much faster, but you'll need the cable and everything to be right.


Firewire has a better reputation among people running a lot of media from their drive. I would suggest that you try and get an external drive kit that can support both. I think your iMac supports both firewire 400 AND firewire 800 along with the 3 USB2 ports. I'm guessing based on my wife's 24" imac. The fastest would be the Firewire 800, but that standard is about to be pushed aside in both cases.


Hope that helped.

Jul 3, 2011 10:57 PM in response to Chris Hayden

To Chris and everybody else contributing,

I have gone for a Lacie Quatro 2 Tb external hard drive, and a separate Firewire cable from Amazon.co.uk with the drive costing about £186 and the cable £7. Next step is to clone, and learn how to boot up from the Lacie. I know SuperDuper recommended Firewire, and saw some other websites did too. So will see how I go, in the next two weeks. Thanks for everybody's input.

Regards from John

Jul 4, 2011 11:39 AM in response to john5801

John,


To mount the clone, you will:


  • Mount the Clone drive by plugging in the Firewire cable and any power supply for the external drive, but there is no need to open it at this point, then,
  • Go to System Preferences (located under the Apple menu in the upper left corner of your Desktop)
  • Select the "Startup Disk" icon in the System category
  • Highlight the external clone's drive icon
  • Select Restart

When your iMac restarts it will ask for any password you might have used to protect the original machine's drive. Enter that and you will reboot into the clone disk every time afterwords until you select another Startup Disk under System Preferences.


As always, hope that helped.

Jul 9, 2011 8:28 PM in response to Chris Hayden

Chris,


Thanks for the advice. Just a quick question for you, will my Mac ask for the master password ? I have got an issue with that password as it is forgotten. I have tried holding down the Alt key during re-starting, and selecting my external drive but encountered more issues that way, having to force-shut down with the power button, a few seconds after sucessfully logging in.


Anyway am afraid to do the above, without knowing the master password.


Regards from John

Jul 10, 2011 4:08 AM in response to john5801

john5801 wrote:


Will my Mac ask for the master password?

John, that would be my guess, sorry.


In my case my master authorized administrator user password and my user password are one and the same.


If, for instance, my machine did not normally ask for a password after a complete restart, I would assume I had never set a system administrator's password.


SuperDuper! may be getting the system to ask for a password that really may have never been set. In that case my guess would be to leave the password box empty and just hit enter.


Hope that helped.

Aug 16, 2011 2:16 AM in response to Chris Hayden

Could not solve the issue of being able to boot into my firewire drive without the computer locking up on me and asking for a forced restart. Have since downloaded Lion from the app store, and installed it on my iMac. Now I want to find a way to re-download it onto the firewire drive, and try to boot from there, using my iMac. The app store will not allow that, as Lion is shown to be already installed.

So I have two plans of action.


1) Try to do it directly using the iMac, by downloading a fresh copy of Lion, if possible. Yourself, or others can advise me how to do this. Once the download starts, I can direct it into the external firewire drive, then boot from there. The drive is already erased and re-formatted in the GUID Partition Table option, so is ready to accept the download.


2) I got a Macbook Pro using Snow Leopard. Can try to connect the laptop using USB to the Firewire drive. The laptop has not got a Firewire port. Lion is not installed on the laptop. Then connect the drive back into my iMac, and get it running the way I want.


I got issues in the laptop, with iPhoto not responding in one account. But will open a new discussion soon to try to resolve the issue.

Again and always, thanks for any of your time. I am off work until 28th August, hope to be up and running by then!

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