Norton Utilities

Herman,

You will be glad that you asked that question.

Let me be the first to say... Do Not use Norton with Tiger.

;~)

Ditto.

Hi Herman,

The other posters are right, let me expand on the topic a bit.

First of all, get rid of Norton, use it for a coaster or a frisbee but not on your Mac! Do not let Norton near your X system, it will hose it! You have been very, very lucky.

Symantec announced almost 2 years ago, that they are no longer supporting SystemWorks or Norton Utilities for Mac. It has hosed that many systems. The latest disks are not compatible with Panther/Tiger.

Here is a link to Uninstall Norton. Don't use the uninstaller on your Norton disk. (That uninstaller is not compatible with 10.4 Tiger)

This uninstaller works with Tiger and will find the 30 or so "invisibles" you will never find if you do it manually. However it may leave behind some files. Depending on which Norton you have installed.
Download and run Cocktail in "Interface" > "Finder" choose to see "invisibles". Or use OnyX.

Look for files like these on the top level of your hard drive:
/Norton FS Volume 2
/NAV Mac 800QS File
/Norton FS Data 808K
/Norton FS Volume
/Norton FS Index

Find those files drag them (not command-delete) to the trash and empty it.

Get TechToolPro 4.0.6 or DiskWarrior 3.0.3 if you want to have a good utility on hand.

There is also usually no need to "optimize" or defrag in X

My suggestion, if you plan to run an AV program would be ClamXav A mac friendly freeware app that is very stable with Tiger. Read the "read me" before installing and do not enable "quarintine feature". The install is just dragging the ClamXav app to your Applications folder.

Good luck.


-mj
macjack@gmail.com



iMac G4 17 FP 800 MHz 768MB Mac OS X (10.4.3) 2 X LaCie d2's APC-UPS / iMac 333MHz 256MB 10.3.9

Go to the Norton website and they will tell you themselves that their software is NOT compatible with the newer OSX versions. I have Tiger--it caused many problems and I finally uninstalled it. It is NOT recommended to use Norton on your Mac. If you need help uninstalling, also check the Norton website, or some treads on here... to make sure you got every trace of it, be sure to do a search in the Finder for any left-over pieces of the software.
Good luck and thanks for asking...
Elaine
PS Listen to MacJack--he has excellent advice and great resources!!

Hello Herman:

Under NO circumstances use Norton Software on a Mac running OS X. These boards are full of horror stories. Symantec has dropped support for Norton software - perhaps two years ago.

"Defragging" is - under most circumstances, completely unnecessary on a Mac running OS X. OS X 'defrags' files of less that 20 MB on the fly. If you routinely use very large files, there are relatively easy ways to 'defrag' those files.

If I were you, I would put the Norton software on a little boat, light it, and have a Viking funeral.

Also, use the universal uninstaller available from the Symantec web site - the stuff hides everywhere.

Barry

But if you really want to defragment your disk, there are a few apps will work on an OS X drive. Drive Genius, Tech Tool Pro and iDefrag.

Will the Uninstaller from the Norton site remove files from very older versions of Norton Utilities? I am just in the process of migrating from OS 9 to OS X. I had just partitioned my hard disk, installed OS X (10.2.8) and recreated OS 9 on the other partition. I was running on the old OS 9 and, when I shutdown, the Norton File Saver ran on both partitions and created directories.

Under NO circumstances use Norton Software on
a Mac running OS X. These boards are full of horror
stories. Symantec has dropped support for Norton
software - perhaps two years ago.

Barry, seems Ive heard Dr. Smoke say that Nortons AV( ver. 9 ) is ok with at 10.3 but im not sure what he says about Nortons AV( ver. 10 ) which was desinged for 10.4

I have been using Nortons AV 9 and 10 since I go tmy emac. Other than the mac help not working properly all else has fine for most part.

And yes I am aware of the Nortons woes with OS X programs other than there anti-virus.

Ran

That is what it says. But I've found you still need to look for the invisibles as I posted. However, if you do not have the app installed, it may report that there is no application present. You can find more solutions on this page.


-mj
macjack@gmail.com

Thanks! But, I would be trying to remove files installed by NUM 5.0.3 ! I went to the "Cocktail" site and was startled by the fact that there is a different version of Cocktail for every version of OS X!! I knew when I started this evolution from OS 9 to OS X that I would find most of my software obsolete, particularly the utilities, but I didn't expect to find utilities that only run in one version of OS X!

I won't go into details but the only time I have had to totally reinstall the OS on one of my Macs, was a few years back when I used Norton SystemWorks on OS9x. Since then I shunned anything Norton.

As for defrag, if you think of performance, repair permissions regularly and espeically after downloading and installing applications and run cron scripts if your Mac isn't on 24/7. I haven't found that defragging is needed so far.

Hello Ran:

AV programs are a different issue. There are NO viruses that affect a Mac running OS X - NONE.

AV software will use resources and yield no results. AV software will detect (sometimes) viruses that affect Windows platforms.

There are "free" AV programs that run on a Mac - I use none myself. Reason, if a virus is finally written that affects a Mac, there will be no signature file in any AV software program.

Barry

AV programs are a different issue. There are
NO viruses that affect a Mac running OS X -
NONE.
AV software will use resources and yield no results.
AV software will detect (sometimes) viruses that
affect Windows platforms.
There are "free" AV programs that run on a Mac - I
use none myself. Reason, if a virus is finally
written that affects a Mac, there will be no
signature file in any AV software program.

Hi Barry, well that is not directly relatd to the gist of my comments but

I use AV cause, I do open attachments and forward the msometimes so,

my hope is to not pass on those nasty viruses to others who hav PC's or other mac users who dont use AV but like me open attachments or forward them.

If I had to do over I would not buy the AV but I say that becaue my finacys have taken a truen for the worse since purchaisng Nortons AV.

Ran

Does anyone know of a Utility software that works? I tried to buy Norton Utilities but there is none on sale anymore. Did symantec quit making it for mac?

Please email me your response: p6200cd@aol.com

Hi Smitty;

Yes. Symantec dropped support for Norton Utilities on the Mac about two years ago now. I am glad to hear that it no longer available.

I would recommend Tech Tools Pro and Disk Warrior.

Allan