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Turning off the magnetic timeline?

Where the **** is the off switch?!?!?! I hope there's an option to turn it off occasionally. I don't always want things sliding around on their own, especially when I'm trying to time something to music!!!! I've been a FCP editor since day one and a professional editor for 15 years, I see how the magnetic timeline can be useful, but if I have to have it constantly engaged I have a feeling I'll be jumping off a bridge very soon!

Final Cut Pro X-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.5.2), mac pro 2 x 2.66 Dual-Core Intel Xeon - Memory: 4 GB 667 MHz

Posted on Jun 21, 2011 8:50 AM

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Posted on Jun 21, 2011 9:17 AM

Final Cut Pro defaults to having the snapping feature turned on. In the upper right corner of the timeline window you will find the snapping icon.

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The magnetic property of the timeline is called snapping. Without it, you would more than likely have small gaps between edits where you attempted to match clips together.

Snapping can be turned on and off by clicking on the snapping icon, or by pressing the N key on the keyboard. You may find it may be easier to press the N key instead of trying to navigate to the small snap icon in the upper right corner of the timeline window.


Hope that helps John

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Dec 21, 2013 12:57 PM in response to joeloco8381

Let me be straight with you: if you find the magnetic timeline infuriating to work with, you should be using another application. This one does not suit your way of working and you will always be fighting it. Apply a transition, it will create a storyline, which is magnetic. You will fight it all the time. Even using the position tool will be a struggle. It's not designed for you.

Apr 14, 2014 2:14 PM in response to Adam Scoffield

how do i unlnk clips... i cant find a way to unlink clips? why do they make layers so hard to understand? V1, V2, V3 had logic... the new way *****... i know i'm in the majority here that is not a raving fan of the new workflow of FCPX... when considering the trade-off's with new features, nothing to me beats efficency for a workflow to get things done...

Jan 29, 2016 4:45 AM in response to jpjd

This is clearly a ridiculously old post but I am really shocked by all the b*tching about the magnetic timeline. As someone that has edited on everything from Avid to Premiere, I am absolutely in love with the magnetic timeline.


I think at the end of the day, I am a student and most of you are not. For me, as soon as I got the software, I read ALL the manuals that came with it, learned about compound clips, secondary storylines, gaps, moving chunks, etc...this app works like a darn dream.


The film FOCUS with Will Smith was cut using this and the editor of that film said he works 3x faster in FCPX than anything else out there, and I have to agree with him.


I'm curious if you've given up on it or if you've finally taken the time to actually learn it.

Jan 30, 2016 4:45 PM in response to maikerukun

In answer to your somewhat aggressive post:


1. I was a student - I learned on the previous version of FCP

2. Yes, like you, I read all the manuals - I was an IT guy for years.

3. Yes, some editors say they are much more efficient in FCP X.

4. FCP X doesn't suit the kind of work I do.

a) I do mostly interviews

b) I use at least one camera, with a tape, for the master track - one clip, usually 1hr in duration

c) I use another cameras with a hard drive, for close-ups. Sometimes one single 1hr clip, sometimes 3 or 4 shorter ones

d) I use a handheld blackmagic pocket camera for other shots - these are short clips

e) I sync via audio

f) I use various clips from my library for b-roll

5. To assemble a 1hr documentary I like to drop the standard components on to the timeline where they need to be: doco series intro, last week's summary, next week's program intro. Then I can slot the footage into the time available. There are usually various segments given equal time - usually they are assembled out of order, depending on what has been shot.


6. I use FCP to process the footage from my older Sony cameras so that they can be read by DaVinci Resolve.


7. I assemble the footage in DVResolve which uses a traditional timeline and makes it easy to put things where I want them.


8. Footage from each camera goes on its own track


9. B-roll goes on its own track


10. Titles go on their own track


11. Separately recorded audio goes on its own track


12. When everything is organised this way it is easy to edit the various cameras to assemble the doco.


13. DVResolve uses conventional bins which make it easy for me to find the material I want in the Mac file system and to check that I have not left anything out.


14. FCPX clip selection works well for short clips if you like to edit clips first and assemble later. That workflow doesn't work for me - in an interview I must have the complete interview so I make the selection when I have everything in front of me from each of the cameras.


15. I like to move things around so I use extra tracks for ideas - slotting clips into an approximate place in the doco.


16. I also use titles for editing commentary "X goes here", "Switch to XY here", "Need to record XX for insertion here".


I find DVResolve much more intuitive to use. Even the terminology in FCPX confuses me - what is an event in the context of a doco series? This stuff comes from iMovie and makes more sense if you filming "events" like your granny's 90th birthday and a trip to the beach.


DVResolve uses a magnetic feature to snap clips together when close - like the old FCP - but doesn't force it. Its very tricky in FCPX to put things where you want them and ensure they don't move sideways or into another track.


Selecting multiple clips from a single long clip is very tricky in FCPX - if you miskey once you lose the lot. I don't do that any more.


Keywords are not helpful to me and the lack of organisation means it can be tricky to find the original footage in the file system.


FCPX uses a library concept - which is unwieldy for a doco series and uses a lot of resources. I keep all the objects in a single library because I use them in various episodes. But this requires a huge amount of resources. Its complicated to move stuff from one library to another.


Sometimes my master clip is the separately recorded audio. In DVResolve I can drop that in first - I can't in FCPX.


Manually syncing audio in FCPX is quite tricky - especially if the edit runs over a cliip end. Adding spacer clips and moving things around is very fiddly and its very tricky to actually see the waveforms at sufficient detail in the camera and separate audio at the same time. This is very easy in DVResolve.


I am not editing every day and the first half hour of using FCPX is always frustrating until I remember how it works.


I have no problem learning new software - I am a computer programmer by trade. But I like to use apps which support the way I work, not force me into a different workflow. After 2 years of battling with FCPX I switched to DV Resolve, which has infinitely better colour matching and a traditional approach to editing which suits the way I like to work. And its free.


DVResolve has issues: It is not the most stable piece of software; it doesn't recognise older camera formats; it can't sync long clips by audio if a secondary clip doesn't start for a long time after the first clip. But FCPX has issues with audio sync especially of you have multiple framespeeds and are using multicam. I tried to assemble a wedding in FCP last year but gave up after being unable to resolve the audio issues with 25fpm and 24fpm clips. I will revisit that project in DVResolve later this year.


But it is much easier for editing audio where you have separately recorded audio and want to manually sync it - this is very easy in DVResolve, much like it was in the old FCP.


Its good that you like FCPX. With any luck you won't find the sort of problems I did - which I realise are specific to the kind of work I do. But my point remains valid: Apple could have provided an on/off switch for the magnetic timeline which would still provide magnetic positioning for adjacent clips but let you put things where you want without messing around with spacers. They could have retained bins and added keywords as an option. They chose not to do so - I feel that was just arrogance.


I never got my head around the organisation in FCPX - I never remember whether I am looking for an event or something else, and it always takes me a while to figure out what FCPX is actually showing me in the media section. Its very cluttered anyway with the whole library of stuff and if I don't remember to always ensure that an import from the tape or disc camera is sent to the file system rather than the library I end up with stuff everywhere.


For me, working with FCPX means working backwards to fit in with their idea of how a workflow should be. I resent it. I loved the old FCP and I wish I had kept it. But DVResolve is truly amazing - and, of course, you can't beat the price.


As you will be aware, FCPX has had a chequered career. Apple lost a lot of users at the start and their imposed workflow and compulsory magnetic timeline has driven others, like me, to other platforms. Unnecessarily, in my opinion - but Apple's FCPX development team seems determined to stick to their guns.

Jan 30, 2016 5:59 PM in response to ByronBound

LOLOLOL


I apologize for coming off aggressive I just get so tired of hearing people complain about the magnetic timeline. I grew up on Final Cut. I started my high schools production facility back in the 90's when I was a kid, leveraging my being a basketball player and threatening to go to our rival school if they didn't allot a budget for me to build out a tv station for our school lol.


Trust me, I understand the frustration, and to be quite frank, I think Apple should rebuild the old FCP workflow INTO FCPX as an option. People can hit a switch and suddenly there are bins and tracks, etc...that would probably bring a lot of people back to FCPX. Premiere, Avid, and Resolve are having a field day right now because of FCPX so I totally understand you.


I guess I just naturally took to FCPX.


For the record I ABSOLUTELY HATE iMOVIE. I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE IT! lol, I'm not kidding, I have no clue how to use iMovie and think it's ridiculous. But FCPX is amazing to me. Ironically Resolve's editor reminds me almost uncannily of FCPX in terms of how it looks, with the difference being tracks. But when I first saw it back in 11 I could've swore at first glance it was FCPX lol.

Jan 30, 2016 6:17 PM in response to maikerukun

Well, you know, when people complain they usually have a point. If Apple had listened more earlier on they would not have lost so many users to competitive platforms. I had had posts deleted on here and a lot of abuse from people - usually telling me I had to change the way I worked.


I used to design software. My approach was to learn how to do the task first and then write software which was intuitive and efficient and mirrored the actual workflow. When I was happy with it I would turn it over to the users. Its not hard to build good software but you need to be able to put yourself in the driver's seat. Most software is built by software engineers who don't actually use the product.


Its too late for Apple to bring people back into the fold - and I doubt that they care that much: its an iphone company these days and anything Mac is very much a secondary consideration. They bought FCP from somewhere else. Eventually they decided to rewrite from scratch and i suppose it was logical to give this job to the iMovie team sine they knew the development environment, whereas the FCP team worked in a different environment - at least thats what I read somewhere. It was a mistake, anyway, from which they have never recovered.


I thought colour matching was hard - i found it very tricky in FCPX. But DVResolve makes it easy - especially if you have a colour-matching card thingo (with all the coloured squares). Then it is so easy its ridiculous. Even without that I can match my Sony footage from the two cameras with the Blackmagic stuff shot in film-mode just with a few tweaks using the basic tools in Resolve.


I found resolve because I bought a blackmagic pocket camera which shoots in film-mode (and raw). The film quality is astonishing but you need to colourgrade it. But now that I have seem what Resolve can do, and now that they have beefed up the editor, I want to use it for everything... I find it really quick and very intuitive. It suits the way I work and I am not going to turn my work patterns upside down to fit in with FCPX, even if I could.


I think, with FCPX, Apple aimed at making it easy. They take this approach to a lot of products and, for the most part, it works. But when it doesn't, then it is a nightmare - bundled libraries are easy until something goes wrong and, with Apple, when time machine, itunes or photos go wrong it is often impossible to fix things because of the way they store information.


I prefer the KISS approach - Keep It Simple, Stupid. After many many years in IT I learned that, in a crisis, you don't want complexity or any barriers to the raw data. Apple gave in and added the ability to keep stuff in the file structure, but the default is still the library and I always forget and then can't find my files.


Anyway, FCPX has many fine features, If it works for you, well and good. At least you are aware of the options.

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