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  • nfoo Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    B. Kennedy:


    Well, OpenCL in the current form didn't exist back then. The video cards from that time simply don't have the capability build into the chip.


    That's why you buy a Mac Pro: you can simply plug in a newer Video Card and get higher speed.

    I don't know what you want? New, better stuff for free?


    An Ati 5770 will run you only 249 $ and will improve everything on your Mac Pro.


    I don't know what you expect: Apple not implementing OpenCL for the enormous speed boosts FCPX gives us, because of the 3 guys in the world that are to cheap to get a 249 $ video card to cheaply refresh their older Mac Pros? With the money you save fro the new FCPX, compared to older versions, you could get 3 ATI 5770.


    Calm down.

  • Craig Seeman Level 4 Level 4 (2,100 points)

    B. Kennedy wrote:


    This *****!  My Mac Pro is only 3 years old.  Bad move Apple.

    Well if it needs Open CL it needs it. Alas Apple is future focused. At least the fix is only $249 for the 5770 and not $3k+ for a new MacPro.


    It does seem that our MacMini 2010 meets the spec although I didn't make the FCPX I didn't get the blocking message.


    I can just see the look on my clients face. "Why are you bringing us over to the MacMini to edit when you have an 8 Core system?" So I say, " Of course the 2008 Mercedes Benz in smoked by the 2010 Toyota, doesn't everyone know that?"


    I should have the 5770 on Thursday and I'll be sweating during the install and purchase.

  • B. Kennedy Level 3 Level 3 (635 points)

    What was I asking for free exactly?  I'm paying for the product.

  • nfoo Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    We'll, it's hard to tell what you want when you're just posting agressive, short sentences with swear words.


    Makes no sense, anyway. Just get a 5770 already. It's well worth it to do the upgrade. Big boost for little money.

    An, yes, it is the price of FCPX. Only because Apple thankfully lowered the price of FC to insanely low.

  • J D Knight III Level 4 Level 4 (3,415 points)

    B. Kennedy wrote:


    This *****!  My Mac Pro is only 3 years old.  Bad move Apple.

    Just because of a need to upgrade a video card? I know gamers who buy at least 3 new GPS every 2 years, just to use all of the latest features. Video cards are probably the fastest moving technology in any system.


    A simple 1 time upgrade of a video card in a 3 y.o. Mac System, when a Windows box user would be looking to replace the entire system (saving possibly their case) is a fantastic deal!

  • Ascalon Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    This is not an upgrade.  An upgrade would imply compatibility with projects from previous versions of the software and would improve on existing functionality.  Not only does this new version of Final Cut remove a number of crucial professional functions, it also makes users pay additional, incremental costs to third party software and hardware providers if they want to continue doing what they did before.


    The "we're so rich we don't care" fanboy nonsense posted here is pretty nauseating but you guys are exactly what Apple wants.  They clearly don't want to keep professional users.

  • nfoo Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    People calling other people fanboy are usally not people I take serious.

    If you were a Pro you wouldn't cry about having to cheaply upgrade a really old Mac for peanuts.

    I'm not rich, but the 249 $ are really a joke.


    I am a pro user  / freelance and I welcome the addition of OpenCL. For the low price of 249 $ you can upgrade your aging Mac Pro to support a new technology and make it faster that way.


    Apple lowered the price. So please stop crying.

    It may be a 1.0 release with a lot missing, but for the price it's a great start for a lot of people to pro editing.


    And, btw.: it's not an update / upgrade. It is a completly new approach and software. Apple made that clear.

    If you don't like that, just don't buy it and don't call people stupid, just because they don't agree with you.

  • Craig Seeman Level 4 Level 4 (2,100 points)

    Ascalon wrote:


    The "we're so rich we don't care" fanboy nonsense posted here is pretty nauseating but you guys are exactly what Apple wants.  They clearly don't want to keep professional users.


    I am a professional and $249 won't break me. I gross more than that each day. Cost of doing business just as upgrading RAM or Hard Drives.


    FCPX has some MAJOR improvements and lacks some MAJOR features.  My guess is Apple will be adding many of them in the next few months. In the meantime the 5770 will also improve Color and Motion in FCS2009 as well.


    As it is FCPX will be usable in single camera tapeless projects that can take advantage of the built in color grading features as well as background rendering.


    There's nothing "fanboy" about these decisions. The GPU benefits me know. FCPX benefits me on some projects now and maybe more later.

  • nfoo Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    Great reply by Craig. Thanks!

  • apbb2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well, I received my 5770 today.  Struggled a little not knowing it needed it's own pwer hookup, but once we sorted out that, worked like a charm.


    Proceed to ask the App Store to install FCP and that also worked.


    Hopefully we will see an improvement in rendering speed because right now I see no difference in haveing the 5770 in the box.


    At least I can confirm that the card woks with older towers.

  • R_Brackin Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)

    I have a 5770 coming in tomorrow.

    How do you hook it to the power? Is there a spare power connector inside the Mac Pro I can use or do I have to buy an adapter?


    I have a 2007 8-core (2,1 model) Mac Pro.

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