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  • German_Doc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You will see: with the "remux-solution" you´ll get a nice and smooth native 1080p50-workflow in fcpx.

  • The Photo Ninja Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    The trial of clipwrap doesn't give me the option to convert to ProRes...I'm guessing that's because I don't have Final Cut Pro X installed - right?

     

    Is it a truly lossless conversion?  What about just wrapping it, but not converting?  Their own media says it's a bad idea.

     

    I tried clipwrap to take the 1080/60p to AIC but it didn't work...it produced a 4kb file that had nothing in it.

     

    Regarding why shoot in 1080/60p - 720p isn't an option on the camera for one.  Yes, to a degree it is limited by a lens, but more importantly because it's there.

  • michkhol Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    nfoo wrote:

     

    I don't get why you want to film in 1080p anyway. Your camera's lens limits the resolution, anyway.

    I bet there's no big difference between 720p and 1080p.

    Maybe stick to 720p? Practicly same quality / resolution. Less space. No hassle in conversion.

     

    You are missing the point. The difference between 720p and 1080p is irrelevant here. Suppose that you need to make a concert video shot with multiple cams? Suppose that you've never seen the cameras and will never see them ever. All you have is a bunch of SD cards. It was not your decision at what resolution and frame rate the video was shot, you have to deliver the end product no matter what. So you need import and multicam feature at minimum. FCPX does not deliver it, period. And don't get me started about the "V1.0" thing. Big Apple said, Version 10, and so be it.

  • nfoo Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    No, I'm responding to the original poster of this question.

    I'm not missing your point.

     

    He asked for HIS camera specifically.

     

    Thanks for not paying attention and then criticising me.

     

    Apple said Final Cut X, btw. That is the product name. The number has nothing to do with the version of the codebase.

     

    And, btw.: 1080p60 is not an official part of the AVCHD spec. Right now it is unsupported by the AVCDH importer of FCPX and I think FCP7. And that is why Panasonic want to release their own tool to rewrap the files beforehand by summer.

     

    But I think this is also Apple's fault. Let's just settle it there.

  • Keebler Level 4 Level 4 (2,135 points)

    no if i remember correctly, that's the way their trial works.  I didn't have fcx and it converted once i paid.  Just can't remember if it converted to prores before or not... doh!

     

    I believe it's lossless - I know one thing, the file sizes are massive and the quality is amazing so it's gotta be.

  • stu15 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes Clipwrap will transcode to many different apple prores formats.  See attached screenshot with your video loaded up in it and the drop down selection.  Re the audio, no I don't have any sync issues and have been doing this in FCP7 for almost a year.  Only just starting in FCPX obviously but it seems the same so far.  My Panasonic HDC-SD700 outputs 5.1 AC-3 and I have found that I have to select the "convert audio to LPCM" box for the audio in the converted clip to be accepted by FCP - not doing this could be the reason some people are having problems.  In FCPX it still seems to recognise my audio as 5.1 channel after doing this but I haven't looked into this much yet.  Your original clip seems to be 2ch AC3 so imported into FCPX as stereo but I would still click the audio convert button to be safe.

     

    I am very much an amatuer and just doing home movies of the kids for overseas relatives so have made things up as I've gone but for what its worth my workflow is this:

    1. Backup the original files from the camera to an archive drive for long term storage

    2. Convert the original files to prores using clipwrap and store the new prores files on a firewire drive (my scratch disk)

    3. Import prores files into FCP

    4. Edit in prores at 1080 50P

    5. Export completed project as a master file at same settings as the sequence (1080 50P prores)

    6. Archive the master file and use it in compressor for creating lower quality version for various purposes as required in the future (i.e. 720p version for youtube etc)

    7. Once the master is complete I delete all the prores clips and the project and just keep the original mts files and the Master output file in archive (mainly because I don't have enough storage to keep the prores files once I am done as they are huge and I don't ever need to go back and re-open projects).

     

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  • michkhol Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    nfoo wrote:

     

    No, I'm responding to the original poster of this question.

    I'm not missing your point.

     

    He asked for HIS camera specifically.

     

    Thanks for not paying attention and then criticising me.

    Sorry but I stand corrected. The original question was about a Panasonic camera with 1080p footage. Switching to 720p can't solve the problem of importing 1080p footage in any way.

    Apple said Final Cut X, btw. That is the product name. The number has nothing to do with the version of the codebase.

    "Final Cut Pro X" is a marketing name, which I cannot care less about. The codebase version (AKA build number) is not made public by Apple. I was talking about the standard version designation "10.0" which is given on the splash screen and in the About menu.

    And, btw.: 1080p60 is not an official part of the AVCHD spec. Right now it is unsupported by the AVCDH importer of FCPX and I think FCP7.

    Most likely it is unsupported by Quicktime X and 7, the former because Apple relied on the third party, the latter because it's already dead. Somehow it did not stop Adobe to support it in Premiere 5.5. Moreover, Premiere does not import, archive, rewrap, transcode, whatever, it just uses the *.MTS files right where I throw them on the hard drive.

    But I think this is also Apple's fault. Let's just settle it there.

    Agreed.

  • German_Doc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    BTW ... if you have artifacts in your Pana-footage coming out of "remux": try Media Converter, it is free and also does a simple rewrapping (no transcoding). And there ist clipwrap, but it costs some bugs.

  • German_Doc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    And don´t forget to load the preset for Media Converter: "Re-wrap AVCHD for Quicktime - uncompressed Audio" is the correct one.

  • The Photo Ninja Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Forget Clipwrap!  Media Converter for the win! 

     

    I just downloaded it and in less time than you can blink, it took my 1080 60p video and made it imovie editable!  Surely FCPX will work with this too.  Right now I am saving it using the quicktime export mode at 59.94 FPS...i'll post it later... my upload speed from this hotel is 0.5 MBPS  - yeahhhhhh...pfffffffffttttttt.

     

    For someone like me, I don't like premiere elements, but it works.  Premiere Pro would be awesome, but then I'll want to go out and buy a quadro card for decent performance... = $1,500 for a decent performing premiere pro experience.  iMovie ***** - too limited in features.

     

    I am not going to use multicameras anytime soon... I'm not a professional.  I would like to create better than average home movies, add some sharpening to make up for the deficiencies of the camcorder lens, dabble with surround sound, add some neat effects, etc.  Is FCPX for me?

  • Keebler Level 4 Level 4 (2,135 points)

    cool... i might try that to see the difference in quality b/n clipwrap and media converter. the only concern i have is how long it would take for an hour of footage considering you're uploading, if I understand it correctly.

     

    Yes, FCPX is designed for someone like you for sure. I'm in the same boat - 1 man operation so it's perfect.

    if you were sharing editing between editors on the same project, not for you.

     

    good luck!,

    Keebler

  • pierrefromcornebarrieu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No it's not Cool. Remux or Media Coverter create a .MP4 file but for these files, FCP X play the movie with a green picture every seconds...it s like a stoboscopic movie or artifacts as you want.

    I'm disapointed, wainting for FCP X for my Pana SD900 and I have to use Handbrake trancode movies to import them.

    I'm going to use Sony Vegas to make the job

  • The Photo Ninja Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Green frame? Here is the 1080 60p file from media converter to imovie with the Quicktime export.  http://db.tt/xXaBdua

     

    Let me know your thoughts.  fcpx should work with media converter.

  • German_Doc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No ... Media Converter per default results in mov and not mp4

    No ... Media Converter works fine with Pana footage.

    Yes ... Remux does have problems with Pana footage.

     

    So just go with Media Converter and do not prejudice.

  • michkhol Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    What camera are you using? For me the green frames appear specifically on the 1080p60 footage from Panasonic TM700.

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