Will OSX Lion still support FCP Studio?

bwright034 wrote:

With the disaster that FCP X is turning out to be, is there any indication as to whether or not any versions of FCP Studio will still work with OS X Lion? ......

i don't know about anyone else but i run fcs3 under a brand new mbp i7 with 2.5ghz and 8gb memory and it smokes as fast as my macpro dual quad core 2.8ghz xeon's i swear. it edits three cam hd like the macpro and it burns out about 8 gb's of video to a usb external dual layer drive in less time than the macpro did on an internal. so much am i impressed with my new arrangement that i am selling the macpro and putting two SSD's in the new mbp as soon as i know exactly how to do it all.

oh and by the way, i agree that fcpx is like NO NO NO. it is good to play with and have fun with except not for full scale production or anything over about 10-15 mins in length IF complicated with filters, effects, images, motion corrections, etc.

for me its fcs3 for now while researching media composer and premier pro. anyone have a suggestion or recommendation?

anyone have a suggestion or recommendation?

Rob A. (and we know what the 'A' stands for!) and your good self could elope? 😁

Installing Final Cut Pro Studio 2.0 on Mac OSX 10.7 (Lion)

I updated my desktop a while ago to 10.7 and tried to fire up Final Cut Pro. I was still running a fairly old version of FCP6 since I hadn't found any good reason to upgrade to FCS 3.0 -- and with the new "unimproved" Final Cut Pro X, decided to stay where I was. But my FCP wouldn't run. Strange. I decided to try to reinstall it, but the installer wouldn't work. A quick search of the internets revealed:

• FCP6 and 7 will run under Lion but won't install as the installer is based on PowerPC code.
• Lion doesn't include Rosetta, the PowerPC emulator
• You can install Rosetta from a 10.6 install disk

So I scrounged around my archives and found a OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard Disk) and in the Extras folder was an installer for Rosetta. Ran that and it installed without complaint. Then went to my FCP Studio 2 disk and ran the installer, and it worked! It's installing away just fine. Step by step means to install FCP 2 on OSX 10.7 Lion:

• Find OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard disk)
• Inside the "Optional Installs" folder is an "Optional Installs.mpkg" file. Click on that and select the "Rosetta" installation option
• Install Rosetta
• Install FCP 2 (ignoring the warnings)
• Bask in glory

Phew! I was worried that I would have to shell out more money for the distinctly inferior new Final Cut Pro X -- which wouldn't be able to even read my previous FCP projects!

I have FCS2 on my MBP and wanted to buy an iMac as the

Mbp is getting a bit creaky, installing my FCS2 onto as per my licence.

I've now heard I can't do this for the reasons this discussion is about.

Can I therefore obtain a disc version of snow leopard to install on a new iMac ?

I'd like to as I'm very much at home with FCP er 5 I think it is. FCPX does look a bit ominous I must say.Also I haven't any broadband so I'm scuppered ! Or maybe get a pre-used desk top mac ?

My iPhone has taken to muttering under its breath every time I make a typo. This is a truly worrying development

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

David Mclaine wrote:

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. However, since he only needs the Rosetta install he could just copy that off the DVD onto his hard drive and just install that.

I'm going to be trying this in the morning. FCP is the only software I'm currently having issues with running Lion. Everything else has behaved well!

Cheers

Rich

rustyintegrale wrote:

David Mclaine wrote:

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. However, since he only needs the Rosetta install he could just copy that off the DVD onto his hard drive and just install that.

I'm going to be trying this in the morning. FCP is the only software I'm currently having issues with running Lion. Everything else has behaved well!

Cheers

Rich

That does not work, it's been tried and posted about, search for yourself.

rustyintegrale wrote: . . . Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. . . . Cheers Rich

hmmmmm i had lion on all my mac's that came originally with leopard and on all of them i installed snow leopard before selling. so all those lion machines were converted back to snow leopard via a reinstall.

Penn-Ohio wrote:

rustyintegrale wrote: . . . Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. . . . Cheers Rich

hmmmmm i had lion on all my mac's that came originally with leopard and on all of them i installed snow leopard before selling. so all those lion machines were converted back to snow leopard via a reinstall.

Machines that first shipped with Lion (ie: never shipped with Snow Leopard or Leopard) can not be downgraded to SL, yours started at Leopard so no issue there.

The OP clearly stated "all post Lion machines" which of course yours are not.

Csound1 wrote:

rustyintegrale wrote:

David Mclaine wrote:

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. However, since he only needs the Rosetta install he could just copy that off the DVD onto his hard drive and just install that.

I'm going to be trying this in the morning. FCP is the only software I'm currently having issues with running Lion. Everything else has behaved well!

Cheers

Rich

That does not work, it's been tried and posted about, search for yourself.

Do you mean copying the installer from the DVD? Why would that not work? Is it not a separate package?

Cheers

Rich

rustyintegrale wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

rustyintegrale wrote:

David Mclaine wrote:

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. However, since he only needs the Rosetta install he could just copy that off the DVD onto his hard drive and just install that.

I'm going to be trying this in the morning. FCP is the only software I'm currently having issues with running Lion. Everything else has behaved well!

Cheers

Rich

That does not work, it's been tried and posted about, search for yourself.

Do you mean copying the installer from the DVD? Why would that not work? Is it not a separate package?

Cheers

Rich

Why don't you just try it.

Csound1 wrote:

rustyintegrale wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

rustyintegrale wrote:

David Mclaine wrote:

Snow Leopard is still available at the Apple online store but I believe there are issues with installing it on a brand new Mac.

DM

Yeah, this is a problem since all post Lion machines will not accept an install of Snow Leopard. However, since he only needs the Rosetta install he could just copy that off the DVD onto his hard drive and just install that.

I'm going to be trying this in the morning. FCP is the only software I'm currently having issues with running Lion. Everything else has behaved well!

Cheers

Rich

That does not work, it's been tried and posted about, search for yourself.

Do you mean copying the installer from the DVD? Why would that not work? Is it not a separate package?

Cheers

Rich

Why don't you just try it.

That's exactly what I was going to do until you said "it does not work". So if you know different how about explaining exactly what you mean? You might save me some angst.

I already tried that, it does not work!

So really I need to think about a good second-hand desk top with leopard or snow . Is there a good shop in London does anyone know? Don't suggest eBay I'm far too paranoid.

I'd see this as best option: re-installing FCS2 means having another go at Compression which I thought was excellent till it conked out. Or buy an iMac get FCPX, plus Compression, Soundtrack etc for the uptodate cam preferences.

I could then get 1-1 for FCPX and Lion which would probably make it less forbidding-looking. But would I be able to import stuff from my compact camera which I do now via iPhoto to use in music videos?

Alternatively I could look at beefing up the MBP maybe re-install Compression. I could get an extra drive and remove as much stuff from current drive as possible . I've got nearly 2000 photos and videos in iPhoto and it crashes almost every time I open it. But they have to stay because so many are referenced into FCP projects.Same difficulty applies to deleting iTunes stuff. Isn't it peculiar that you can make a QT movie from the timeline which is entirely self- supporting for export purposes, but if you want to burn a DVD from it you have to have the original media files ?

So there's my dilemma . To FCP or not to FCP ?

Triple U Productions wrote:

So really I need to think about a good second-hand desk top with leopard or snow . Is there a good shop in London does anyone know? Don't suggest eBay I'm far too paranoid.

I'd see this as best option: re-installing FCS2 means having another go at Compression which I thought was excellent till it conked out. Or buy an iMac get FCPX, plus Compression, Soundtrack etc for the uptodate cam preferences.

I could then get 1-1 for FCPX and Lion which would probably make it less forbidding-looking. But would I be able to import stuff from my compact camera which I do now via iPhoto to use in music videos?

Alternatively I could look at beefing up the MBP maybe re-install Compression. I could get an extra drive and remove as much stuff from current drive as possible . I've got nearly 2000 photos and videos in iPhoto and it crashes almost every time I open it. But they have to stay because so many are referenced into FCP projects.Same difficulty applies to deleting iTunes stuff. Isn't it peculiar that you can make a QT movie from the timeline which is entirely self- supporting for export purposes, but if you want to burn a DVD from it you have to have the original media files ?

So there's my dilemma . To FCP or not to FCP ?

Do what I do. Get yourself a late iMac with two hard drives (mine has a 256GB SSD and a 2TB HD). Use the SSD for your main system files and Apps, then partition the secondary drive say 50/50. Use half for your Home folder and data (set this up in Preferences/Accounts) and the other half as a dedicated FCP volume. Install your choice of OS and FCP - that is all. That way FCP is totally independent of any spurious OS upgrades and in my experience runs far better this way in any case.

I'd also recommend a beefy, fast external hard drive connected with FW800 directly to use as a scratch disk and to transfer completed projects to. I have no experience of Thunderbolt so this may or may not work better than FW.

Regarding iTunes and iPhoto. Again store these externally and make iTunes and iPhoto just reference the files and not copy to your hard drive. That way you can use the original files on other machines in the same referenced way but have the flexibility of not having them tied to just one machine.

Cheers

Rich