The Release is Now Officially a "Debacle"

Something BhudsonIndy said above helped me resolve what bothered me most about what Apple has done with FCPX. They have "mocked" the investment of time and money that I have put into this application (and associated apps like Motion, Compressor, Color, etc.). It takes a LOT of time, effort and money to become truly proficient in these apps and Apple has just crapped all over my investment. I felt the same way when Adobe killed Framemaker. These apps are so complex and powerful that, once you master them, you CAN'T go back to iMovie (or Word). It is just too painful to not be able to do what you used to be able to do so easily. Like Framemaker, I guess I'm going to have to keep using FCP7 until it withers and then breaks (or unless Apple reverses course and makes a real upgrade to FCP7).

When I read the reviews for FCPX, I was dumbfounded. I realized I may have wasted my time and money on an app over a number of years. Now, I may have to relearn new post production apps and, frankly, I'm ******. I basically have an Apple store in my house (multiple computers, iPods, iPhones, AppleTVs, iPads, MacBooks, etc., etc.). If Apple really has screwed us over as badly as they seem to have done, I'm through with Apple. I'm going to give them time to remedy this (or to at least indicate that they made a huge mistake and then pledge to fix it), but I have lost faith in them as of this moment and they are going to have to WIN me back in big way. Apple can say "to **** with you" if they want, but no company can continue to function while crapping on customers like me (historically loyal). I really hope Apple gets this message.

FCP X won't work in an educational environment. If you can't save the project file to an external drive with the media, you don't have portability. Didn't this occur to them when they decided to bury the project file as a database in the home user folder? Add on top of that the other features they've jettisoned and there's really no reason to either adopt this new version or stick with version 7. I figured I'd be the last to say this in my department, but Final Cut is not an option for education anymore--at least not as software worth learning to provide skills in the professional market. RIP Final Cut.

Apple did that with the 1st iteration of Aperture untill all the pro users complained.

They must be on some weird type of drugs in this department if they think they talked to the pro community and got the necessary feedback.

How did Steve let them get away with this crap.

Maybe he is actually dead and they just use a hologram of him for promo purposes

Maybe he is actually dead and they just use a hologram of him for promo purposes---->genius

Final Cut Vista was a punch in the face of every editor that used to be proud of final cut

You can have the project file and its associated media on an external drive.

Whoooah...stop right there. Tell me more. You sure? If I cannot then that is a major issue. I have my project and media on a RAID. Which one would of course. You would be crazy to keep it on your OS HD. I might work a little on it...maybe prep for a field edit on the laptop. Transfer to laptop, go out, shoot, do a little edit in the field. Back to the studio transfer the new stuff to the desktop. Please tell me they have not taken this away.

Can't be that bad if the TV stations are already using it... http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=sRzLP0FJ82I. Lol. Oh, I hope that link works since its straight from my iPhone, if not, search Final Cut Pro X Conan on you tube. It's well worth watching. :)

I am a professional and I actually like FCPX however I also 100% agree with what all the pro's are saying. The bottom line is FCPX should really have been called iMovie X. The price point alone screams low end Pro. My biggest issue is the network drives. I myself only have 4 Mac's running off of a main network drive. I don't want a single FCPX file on my local drive so I hope they fix that issue among many that need fixed with a update very soon.

"to produce decent video"

Wow, what ambition!

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haha, FCP is now FCV - Final Cut Vista!

'Zactly.

Even tho I am one of those very folk, I can see by my response to FCPX's appearance that your are absolutely correct.

I never went past FCP 3 because once they went "Suite" the price couldn't be justified for my "Travelmentaries". However, recognizing the power of FCP, I was pleased when FCE came out (at the same time they murdered iMovie). While I recently found iMovie improved enuff to use for quick rough editing, FCE is still necessary for my final outputs.

While I am in sympathy with those who have put their hearts and money into "real" FCP, I am pleased to have (pretty much) all of FCP's power now at my fingertips again. Unfortunately, it is at the price of all that high-end stuff that I never used, anyway, and I can understand the feelings of betrayal being posted in the forums.

By far, the introduction of "Themes" into FCP makes even me, at the bottom of the spectrum, want to go to the next Apple Keynote speech and throw up on someone's shoes.

Since buying and going through the Ripple Training videos I have decided FCPX is not for me.

Three reasons mainly:

1. Apple have taken away a lot of functionality and whilst making it easier for novices, I like to haver a timeline that I can play around with and manipulate how I want not how Apple wants me to:

2. It can't import FCP7 projects - that is not backward compatible

3. It cannot import footage at all from my Canon XF300 (MXF format) - This may be fixed one day with a Canon plugin but I doubt it will happen quickly.

So I have looked at the alternatives. I don't like Avid - it is too clunky for me and a big learning curve

Premiere Pro I have never really considered before but just spent the last two days getting to know it.

It really is brilliant. It is everything FCP7 should be at 64bit.

It even imports FCP7 projects, imports MXF files natively without a plugin, has a very small learning curve to transition because you can actually set the keyboard command set to that of FCP7 and you can personally modify it to suit. Also, any plugins you have bought for FCP will install in PP.

If you go to adobe web site they have a video that explains their commitment both now and the future to supporting the "Professional" aspect of video editing.

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/industry-trends/adobes-vision-for-professional-video/

They also have some videos explaining the transition and how easy it is. I bet they were just waiting for this release of FCPX !

http://tv.adobe.com/show/switching-to-adobe-premiere-pro-cs5/

is there a place to download the fcp keyboard shortcuts for adobe PP?

it'd be nice to simply import these and not have to set them up manually.

You don't have to set them up manually.

You just click on "Premiere Pro" at the top ans select "keyboard shortcuts"

In the top pull down you can select

PP shortcuts

Avid media composer shortcuts or

FCP7 shortcuts

Only issue is it gives you the default shortcuts so if you have personalised FCP7 shortcuts in any way you will have to personalise them again but you can then save them to a file for transporting to other workstations

whoa that is pretty sweet! thank you!

loving fcp7

trying but far from loving fcpx (imovie pro) it's an awesome app don't get me wrong just not what i would have asked for...

looking for a three year plan as fcp7 is obviously legacy software now.

adobe PP is looking like the front runner! thanks for the tip!