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Why is my Time Machine backup so slow?

In short: A backup of 2 Mbytes takes more than half an hour


Long version

I used Time Machine with my old iMac and of course I am using it with my new iMac (SSD + 2 TB). The Backup destination is an external FireWire drive with 2 TB, the same I used with the old iMac.


The first backup took some time (more than 700 GB), but this is normal, I assume. Now I have problems with the "small" delta backups. Just one example from the console output:


27.06.11 17:56:20 com.apple.backupd[8775] Starting standard backup

27.06.11 17:56:20 com.apple.backupd[8775] Backing up to: /Volumes/Archiv 1/Backups.backupdb

27.06.11 17:57:56 com.apple.backupd[8775] No pre-backup thinning needed: 855.7 MB requested (including padding), 883.02 GB available

27.06.11 18:06:31 com.apple.backupd[8775] Copied 226532 files (1.8 MB) from volume Speedy HD.

27.06.11 18:06:50 com.apple.backupd[8775] Copied 226781 files (1.8 MB) from volume Speedy Medien.

27.06.11 18:09:48 com.apple.backupd[8775] No pre-backup thinning needed: 871.3 MB requested (including padding), 882.92 GB available

27.06.11 18:17:59 com.apple.backupd[8775] Copied 178604 files (236 KB) from volume Speedy HD.

27.06.11 18:18:19 com.apple.backupd[8775] Copied 178853 files (236 KB) from volume Speedy Medien.

27.06.11 18:24:55 com.apple.backupd[8775] Starting post-backup thinning

27.06.11 18:33:17 com.apple.backupd[8775] Deleted backup /Volumes/Archiv 1/Backups.backupdb/Speedy/2011-06-26-171728: 883.00 GB now available

27.06.11 18:33:17 com.apple.backupd[8775] Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed

27.06.11 18:33:18 com.apple.backupd[8775] Backup completed successfully.


As you can see from the log there is no single error message or warning but the backup of about 2 MBytes took 37 Minutes !! And this happens every hour. Most time of the day my iMac is backing up!! If I add some content to my iMac, (e.g. the backup of a new TV show with 3 GBytes) the backup is as fast as expected (at least the copy phase of Time Machine). Nevertheless every backup has a long preparation and a long cleanup phase. During these ridiculous long phases the activity of the external FireWire drive is very high, I hear the head of the drive positioning all the time.


I checked all discs with disk utility, repaired all rights, rebooted the iMac and switched the external drive off and on.


The backup source consists of the SSD and the HDD of my iMac. For the HDD I disable access rights management to share an iPhoto library easily between multiple users in our family.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), iMac mid 2011

Posted on Jun 27, 2011 10:40 AM

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Posted on Jun 27, 2011 11:30 AM

In case you haven't found it, Pondini's website is a super resource on Time Machine.


Try this page - http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/D2.html

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Feb 29, 2012 4:22 AM in response to TomRadfahrer

Same issue for me. SSD used as my boot and applications drive. Three internal drives (two 1Tb and one 2Tb) full of photos and a detachable 1Tb drive for Documents, email and other critical data. I do have tons of data, but ****... Time Machine estimates a WEEK for the first backup. Here's the on-screen shot from my first Time Machine backup (to a network connected Drobo FS)


User uploaded file


The widget says:


Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination URL: afp://tom@Drobo-FS.local/Backups

Mounted network destination at mountpoint: /Volumes/Backups using URL: afp://tom@Drobo-FS.local/Backups

Creating disk image /Volumes/Backups/Mac Pro Tom.sparsebundle

Failed to hide extension on /Volumes/Backups/Mac Pro Tom.sparsebundle, error: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=4 "The file “Mac Pro Tom.sparsebundle” doesn’t exist." UserInfo=0x7f87386028d0 {NSURL=file://localhost/Volumes/Backups/Mac%20Pro%20Tom.sparsebundle/, NSFilePath=/Volumes/Backups/Mac Pro Tom.sparsebundle, NSUnderlyingError=0x7f8738602c90 "The operation couldn’t be completed. No such file or directory"}.

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/Backups/Mac Pro Tom.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Ownership is disabled on the backup destination volume. Enabling.

Backup content size: 1283.7 GB excluded items size: 476 KB for volume Terabyte3

Backup content size: 206.4 GB excluded items size: 1.9 GB for volume Macintosh SSD

Backup content size: 239.8 GB excluded items size: 2.1 GB for volume Schonhoff 1Tb

Backup content size: 837.5 GB excluded items size: 7.5 MB for volume Terabyte1

Backup content size: 897.6 GB excluded items size: 344 KB for volume Terabyte2

4.06 TB required (including padding), 7.81 TB available

Waiting for index to be ready (101)

Copied 24.5 GB of 3461.0 GB, 1836 of 2683310 items

Copied 47.1 GB of 3461.0 GB, 3577 of 2683310 items

Copied 68.1 GB of 3461.0 GB, 5054 of 2683310 items

Copied 88.9 GB of 3461.0 GB, 7588 of 2683310 items

Copied 109.1 GB of 3461.0 GB, 10855 of 2683310 items

Copied 129.1 GB of 3461.0 GB, 13930 of 2683310 items

Copied 148.8 GB of 3461.0 GB, 16968 of 2683310 items

Copied 168.5 GB of 3461.0 GB, 19255 of 2683310 items

Copied 188.0 GB of 3461.0 GB, 21456 of 2683310 items

Feb 29, 2012 7:42 AM in response to outermagnolian

outermagnolian wrote:

. . .

Here's the on-screen shot from my first Time Machine backup (to a network connected Drobo FS)

Actually, that's about right. Backups done via Ethernet run at, very roughly, about 20-24 GB/hour. You have 4 TB, which does work out to 200 hours or 8.3 days.


And the messages bear that out; it's backed-up 188 GB in 9 hours, or 20.8 GB/hour.


Some of the things in the green box of #D2 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting might help a bit, but if

you want faster backups, you need a faster pipe. USB runs at perhaps 40-50 GB/hour; F/W 400 at 50-55 GB/hour; F/W 800 at roughly 80-90 GB/hour (I've not tested Thunderbolt).

Mar 9, 2012 7:26 AM in response to Pondini

An update, if anybody is still following this -- and a strange one.


I decided against reinstalling the OS and bringing up only to 10.6.7 -- at least for the moment. I will be on Lion one of these days and am in the middle of a big project and didn't want to risk a big change. I've been using TM when I wasn't working at the computer (if you turn off TM, you can still select "Back Up Now"). Back ups were taking about 45 minutes or more, and were backing up about 190,000 files.


I just checked Backup Buddy and roughly a week ago, for no reason that I can fathom, everything started working normally again. Backups are now taking 4-8 minutes and backing up about 85,000 files. This is as good as it's ever been.


The funny thing is that I can't figure out what happened. I did a full SuperDuper backup the morning before things changed, which means that I probably repaired permissions and ran Cocktail. But I've done that many times before and it seemed to have no effect on TM.


So now it's even more of a mystery -- but I am a happy camper!


Thanks again to everybody participating here, for your help.


Steve

Mar 18, 2012 1:58 PM in response to Steve Cohen4

Following this hint to force restart Finder worked for me http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20100201062908134


Without quitting the Time Machine session, I just closed everything running on my Mac - I also removed the Backup volume from the sidebar in Finder, closed all Finder windows.


It took 12 hours to backup 45GB, and now it's backup the next 10GB in 10 minutes!


Hope this helps someone else.

Apr 5, 2012 8:34 AM in response to Steve Cohen4

I've been having a similar issue... using a non-SSD MacBook Pro with a Time Capsule. Last night, it took three hours to complete a backup of less than 5GB. Nothing seemed to be "wrong," per se, but this is getting ridiculous as TM keeps slowing down. The backups seem to stall out a lot as well, but I have a full WiFi signal on my MBP, and my wife's MBP completes its backups in no time at all also over WiFi. Any thoughts?



Apr 4 20:58:44 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Attempting to mount network destination URL: afp://Subspace-Time-Capsule.local/Data

Apr 4 20:58:53 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Mounted network destination at mount point: /Volumes/Data using URL: afp://Subspace-Time-Capsule.local/Data

Apr 4 20:59:01 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Disk image /Volumes/Data/The Electric Mayhem IX.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Apr 4 20:59:02 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Apr 4 20:59:53 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Waiting for index to be ready (100)

Apr 4 21:00:41 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Using file event preflight for Hard Drive

Apr 4 21:01:59 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Will copy (918.4 MB) from Hard Drive

Apr 4 21:06:24 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Found 392 files (2.33 GB) needing backup

Apr 4 21:06:32 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: 4.66 GB required (including padding), 131.37 GB available

Apr 4 22:00:41 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Copied 2.31 GB of 2.33 GB, 7986 of 7986 items

Apr 4 22:26:30 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Copied 16902 files (2.39 GB) from volume Hard Drive.

Apr 4 22:26:35 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Using file event preflight for Hard Drive

Apr 4 22:27:01 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Will copy (742.9 MB) from Hard Drive

Apr 4 22:27:01 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Found 594 files (1.64 GB) needing backup

Apr 4 22:27:01 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: 3.84 GB required (including padding), 131.31 GB available

Apr 4 23:07:22 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Copied 13639 files (1.65 GB) from volume Hard Drive.

Apr 4 23:07:34 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Created new backup: 2012-04-04-230731

Apr 4 23:47:37 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Starting post-backup thinning

Apr 4 23:58:59 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Deleted /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/The Electric Mayhem IX/2012-04-02-134028 (12 MB)

Apr 4 23:58:59 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed

Apr 4 23:59:05 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Backup completed successfully.

Apr 4 23:59:05 The-Electric-Mayhem-IX com.apple.backupd[323]: Waiting for Spotlight to finish indexing /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Apr 10, 2012 5:05 PM in response to Pondini

Painful experience with Time Machine.


My hard drive on my macbook pro needed to be swapped out by Apple and now my backups have been going crazy slow. I decided to go a complete erase of my TC and my backups are still incredibly slow. I'm not getting any errors. The backups are working but it is slow slow slow. A 20MB backup takes about 45 minutes - that is even after a fresh backup. The initial backup goes very smooth.


Any suggestions.


Before I had my HDD replaced my incremental backups were never taking longer than 10 minutes and usually closer to 5.


Even my backups overnight are taking 45 minutes - nothing is running.


I have completely excluded Parallels.


Thanks


this takes 45 minutes


Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://Alan%20Kaplan@Repak-Time-Capsule.local/Repak%20Time%20Capsule

Mounted network destination using URL: afp://Alan%20Kaplan@Repak-Time-Capsule.local/Repak%20Time%20Capsule

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/Repak Time Capsule/Alan Kaplan’s Computer.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

No pre-backup thinning needed: 518.4 MB requested (including padding), 359.32 GB available

Copied 57825 files (17.4 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

No pre-backup thinning needed: 517.6 MB requested (including padding), 359.13 GB available

Copied 25799 files (12.8 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Starting post-backup thinning

No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist

Backup completed successfully.

Ejected Time Machine disk image.

Ejected Time Machine network volume.


The backups start very slow 1KB, 2 KB, 3 KB then when it gets to about 100KB it starts moving faster. Its the start of the backups which moves at a snails pace.

Apr 10, 2012 5:08 PM in response to Pondini

Wow -- you are fast -- thanks for the reply.


10.6.8 -- after all of the trouble backing up I did a reinstall using my DVD and then using the group update you suggested to get back to .8


In the past WIFI -- once I started having trouble I have moved to ethernet -- still problems -- faster, but not even close to where I was in the past.


My internal and TC drives both check out ok.

Why is my Time Machine backup so slow?

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