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Can I use a trackball with Lion?

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Jun 29, 2011 9:39 AM

I have a physical disability. I use a trackball to navigate my Mac. I am very concerned about the Lion OS. Will I be able to use a trackball with it? I'm definitely not a fan of Apple's gesture system. I can barely mange to execute a one finger gesture (no humor intended), not to mention the 2 or 3  finger gestures. The whole scheme seems very disability unfriendly, and I'm very concerned because I am unable to use a trackpad.

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  • captfred Level 7 Level 7 (26,225 points)
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    Jun 29, 2011 9:45 AM (in response to Augtalk)

    From watching the videos and demos, I don't think Lion will take anything away from your ability to navigate with a trackball.  It appears to add gestures for users of the Magic Mouse and Trackpad.  Neither of those devices is listed as a prerequisite for Lion though.

     

    I think you'll be ok.

     

    Regards,

    Captfred

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
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    Jun 29, 2011 12:14 PM (in response to Augtalk)

    Yes, you will be able to use a mouse or trackball with Lion.  A trackpad is not a requirement for Lion.  Obviously, you don't get the "extras" that gesturing will provide on a trackpad, but you'd use Lion basically the same way you'd use previous versions of OSX.

     

    (BTW, I don't have a disability, but the primary input device for my Mac Mini is a Kensington Orbit trackball and I plan to continue using the trackball and NOT getting a trackpad when I upgrade to Lion. )

  • art Harris Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 12:07 PM (in response to Asatoran)

    My Kensington Turbo Mouse has lost ALL its secondary functions with Lion. Now it is a slow, single function track ball, totally useless. The Kensington website fails to recognise that they ever produced a Turbo Mouse, and speaking to their help line informed me that as the device has been discontinued, its driver is unlikely to be updated.

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 12:27 PM (in response to art Harris)

    ...Turbo Mouse...has been discontinued, its driver is unlikely to be updated.

    FYI: The Turbo Mouse was discontinued quite a while ago, which is why it no longer shows up on the website.  (I believe it was originally released in 2000 or 2001.)  It was replaced with the Expert Mouse.

     

    http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html

  • art Harris Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 12:32 PM (in response to Asatoran)

    Not true. I bought this one, my second, when the first wouldn't work with my new Intel iMac; I bought that in 2009.

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 2:18 PM (in response to art Harris)

    art Harris wrote:

     

    Not true. I bought this one, my second, when the first wouldn't work with my new Intel iMac; I bought that in 2009.

    You may have bought the Turbo Mouse in 2009, but the design was originally introduced in 2000 or 2001.  So it is a 10 year old model, which shouldn't surprise you that it got replaced by Kensington.

  • Zero Gravity Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 2:40 PM (in response to Asatoran)

    Does the Expert Mouse work with Lion?

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
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    Jul 21, 2011 5:08 PM (in response to Zero Gravity)

    Zero Gravity wrote:

     

    Does the Expert Mouse work with Lion?

    The unit will "work" with Lion.  The real question is whether the Kensington software that control the extra buttons will work with Lion.  No info from Kensington so we'll have to wait and see, or hope someone will try and post their results.

  • Zero Gravity Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Jul 22, 2011 7:34 AM (in response to Asatoran)

    OK, so the Turbo Mouse Pro does work with Lion....the software does NOT.   you can adjust the speed with the mouse peferences, and with 'mission control'  you can still assign the buttons to activate mission control, launchpad, and some other stuff

  • art Harris Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jul 22, 2011 7:51 AM (in response to Zero Gravity)

    Thank you; I had already speeded it up, but I have lost my double click, righr click, and copy function, which are the ones I miss. And even speeded up, it isn't as fast as it was.

     

    I am getting by with the TrackPad, but it isn't the same.

  • Zero Gravity Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Jul 22, 2011 8:45 AM (in response to art Harris)

    I agree, it is not as fast, but it is use-able.   I called Kensington yesterday, and they said they have currently No products that are compatible with Lion (way to be prepared)  they have no timeline when the new software will be released, and they will only support current products, like the expert mouse, etc.   The Turbo Mouse pro is as good as dead to them.

  • Jerome Krinock Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM (in response to Zero Gravity)

    I'm having the same problem with my trusty Macally Q Ball as those above have reported with their Kensingtons.  It "works", but even though I reinstalled the latest driver, the configuration app says that the Q Ball is "not connected", and my configuration settings are ignored.

     

    Since Lion has been available to developers for a year or so, it's doubtful that they'll fix it.

     

    But, hey, this is a universal driver which works for a dozen products, and I see that some of them are still in production.  I think I'll send them an email.  If enough of us ask, they might fix it. 

     

    For Technical Support : techsupport@macally.com

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    Tel: 909.230.6778

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    4601 E. Airport Drive, Ontario , CA 91761, USA

  • macrls Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM (in response to Zero Gravity)

    I have 3 Kensington Expert wireless trackballs and have been  able to get by but the Mouseworks software is essentially unworkable.  I got the following email from Kensington: Mac 10.7 Lion OS is a new operating system and Kensington is developing a new software for the Expert Mouse Optical Trackball model # 64325. In this regards, we request you to please check the website on a regular basis for the new updates of the software, as we do not have an exact time frame.

     

    I also called regarding the Trackball Works Beta software which was posted 6-21-11 and it is NOT Lion compatible. 

  • art Harris Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jul 25, 2011 2:27 PM (in response to macrls)

    macris,

    you got a more useful response from your Kensington contact than I did from mine.

    It seems that I will need to buy a 3rd new Kensington product (my first was PowerMac based, the second Intel) when the Lion software comes out as the Logitech products will not do the things I have got used to using the Kensington for. Pity! They are cheaper!

    Perhaps in the meantime, I will get used to the Trackpad, which, at the moment, drives me scatty, with its ability to do things I don't want it to do. It is just too sensitive.

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