Benjamin Wagner
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Q: Waveburner - Disabling CD Text for DDPs

I am working on a project where the client has requested that I strip CD Text from my DDPs, but even if I clear all of the CD Text fields, the final DDP contains a "CDTEXT.BIN" file.

 

How can I export a disk as a DDP without the CD Text file? Also, is it safe to delete the CD Text file post-facto, or will this have adverse effects on the file set?

20, Mac OS X (10.4.7), 1GB of ram

Posted on Jul 3, 2011 3:50 PM

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Q: Waveburner - Disabling CD Text for DDPs

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  • by bradsarno,

    bradsarno bradsarno Jul 13, 2011 9:00 PM in response to Benjamin Wagner
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    Jul 13, 2011 9:00 PM in response to Benjamin Wagner

    Two answers. First is:  DON'T TRUST THE DDP FUNCTION. The DDP files from Waveburner are corrupted and track markers move from where they should be. This can be catastrophic. We've been bugging Apple to fix this, but they apparently don't really have anyone working on fixing Waveburner at the moment. Very understaffed, and they pulled their smart people over to iPhone and iPad development. A real tragedy. I've been down this DDP road with Waveburner, and it ain't pretty. Not till they fix it.

     

    Next answer: When you generate a DDP file set, I believe it's as simple as removing that CDTEXT.BIN file. Just take it out of the folder and trash it. Then, I believe, you have a DDP without CD-Text.

     

     

    Good luck, and please keep hounding Apple to fix Waveburner.

     

    Best,
    Brad

     

    www.bluejadeaudio.com

  • by Benjamin Wagner,

    Benjamin Wagner Benjamin Wagner Jul 14, 2011 1:33 AM in response to bradsarno
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    Jul 14, 2011 1:33 AM in response to bradsarno

    Thanks for the reply, Brad!

     

    What exactly do you mean when you speak of the movement of the track markers? Waveburner has a default delay of 2 seconds before a track plays that can be set to any number (even 0) in the preferences. The initial track will still have a minimum of two seconds of silence at the beginning regardless of what value you set, as per redbook standards.

     

    I was able to successfully create DDPs of an 11 disk audiobook via the most recent version of Waveburner. I checked the files' tracks in Backline DDP Player, and the timing all seemed good. Furthermore the guy responsible for quality control of the project claimed that the DDPs were good and ready to be used for mastering the disks. The only real bug I experienced with exporting DDPs is that the CD's "Title" field is populated whenever the file is saved, so you need to clear the field and export the DDP without saving if you want the field empty.

     

    I presumed it might be that simple, but as I'm not familiar with the specifics of the DDP guidelines, I wasn't sure if a DDP could function/be read correctly without the CDTEXT.BIN file.

     

    Thanks!

     

    --Benjamin

  • by bradsarno,

    bradsarno bradsarno Jul 14, 2011 6:18 PM in response to Benjamin Wagner
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    Jul 14, 2011 6:18 PM in response to Benjamin Wagner

    Hi Ben.

     

    Yes, I've created some DDP file sets that did not drift. I can't figure what triggers it, but it does happen and DDP file sets need to be verified. I have Sonoris and Soundblade and Backline, so I can open and read and even edit (Soundblade) DDP file sets. I started noticing that my time codes from the DDP didn't match the Waveburner session notes. Recently I had a huge project for Decca. The DDP created had moved each track marker a bit late, and for each track, the drift was a bit more each time, so by the last song, the track marker was over 2 seconds late. In the time crunch, I had to out think Waveburner and place the track markers earlier. Eventually I created a DDP that worked, but not without major headache. A guy on the mastering forum knows a developer in this department at Apple and the guy admits these WB problems. They are VERY inactive at Apple with regards to fixing this stuff. You'd think they had a staff busy every day working on this, but they literally have 1, maybe 2 guys and they've been pulled over to iOS for iPad/iPhone development or something like that and barely have time for Waveburner, like zero energy is active over there to fix Waveburner.

     

    This whole thing upsets me because I love Waveburner. It's the greatest, and it's the only tool that lets me work how I really need. So for now, if I want a reliable DDP, I have to create and burn a CD-R in WB, then import that disc to SoundBlade and go from there for DDP and CD-Text. Waveburner is SO close, yet so far.

     

    Brad

     

     

    www.sarnomusicsolutions.com

    www.bluejadeaudio.com