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KREMER-MEDIA.EU Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I know it sounds like a joke but is it possible?

FCP7 worked well with NEO 3D plugin. I wonder if Apple step froward into 3D stereoscopy world? Or maybe not because it can not be broadcast on youtube or iPod which seems to be a main platform for FCPX.

  • 1. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Yes. It is absolutely possible.  I just put the finishing touches on Stereo3D Toolbox LE v3.0 and it includes full compatibility with FCP X on Snow Leopard or Lion.  It will be released as soon as Lion is released.   Check http://www.dashwood3d.com/stereo3dtoolboxle.php or http://www.noiseindustries.com/fxfactory/ shortly after Lion becomes available for all the details.

     

    The upside to FCP X is that automatic synchronization of left/right clips works very well so we have taken advantage of that feature and "compound clips" to manage 3D pairs.   You can also now edit and see GoPro3D clips instantly in FCP X with Stereo3D Toolbox LE v3.0 without having to go through the time-consuming two-step procedure of transcoding and muxing with the GoPro Cineform Studio software.    I will post a tutorial video for this soon.

     

    By the way, Youtube has been compatible with 3D for two years now.   You can upload a side by side 3D video to youtube and then add the tag "yt3d:enable=true" and YouTube will enable 3D viewing options.   YouTube expects "cross-view" side by side so you may also have to add "yt3d:swap=true" so it knows the left is on the left side.

     

    There are also 3D options for the iPhone or iPod Touch.  One of them is Hasbro's new my3D, which we also now support in Stereo3D Toolbox v3.0

    http://www.hasbro.com/hasbromy3d/en_US/

  • 2. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    The TonyTony Level 4 Level 4 (1,300 points)

    Thank you for the good news Tim. I have a client ready to start making stereoscopic programs and I was hoping Toolbox would be compatible with FCPX soon.

     

    Can we assume that this also means the full version will also be compatible as well and work in Motion 5?

     

     

    TOnyTOny

  • 3. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Both versions will have full compatibility with Motion 5.  However, I have only been able to port the LE version to FCP X so far because all the special user interface stuff we designed for the full version just won't translate into FCP X.  For example, the push button in the effect palette we normally have to set a new global mode won't be visible in FCP X so I had to replace it with a checkbox.  I didn't have a problem doing this for the LE version but I wouldn't want to do it for the full version of plugins.  I will have to find another solution and it will take some time.

    Even on LE we have lost the UI preview modes within the effects palette while in FCP X.

    This is a limitation of how FxPlug filters now "tunnel" through to Motion 5 using a FCP X effect template.

     

    V3 of Stereo3D Toolbox will also be released soon (August) and I will design as many FCP X templates for it as possible, but some features will simply be missing within FCP X for the reasons mentioned above.

  • 4. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,175 points)

    Very cool Tim. Thanks.

  • 5. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Sjoerd De Vries Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Hello Tim,

     

    This is absoluut wonderful. Can we use the Sony HD R-TD10 with the new format MVC format?

     

    In other words can we use MVC format with Stereo3D Toolbox LE v3.0 in FCP-X?

  • 6. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    That is a great question, and one I don't have an exact answer to because I don't own the TD10.   I assume the short answer is "no" but it probably just requires unmuxing the MVC on a PC with Sony's software so that you can have two separate H264 streams.

     

    I am picking up a HXR-NX3D1 on Monday (the pro version of the TD10) and then I will know more.

  • 7. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    TomWheel Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    Tim,

     

    I would buy your Stereo3D Toolbox software the moment that you implement support for the MVC clips for the Sony HDR-TD10 3D camcorder. In fact, I would be happy to make available to you some MVC clips shot with my TD10 if that would assist you in implementing the ingestion of these clips into  FCP X or Adobe's Premiere Pro CS5.5.  I have and use both NLE's. Right now, the only way to edit the MVC clips from the Sony HDR-TD10 is to use Vegas Pro 10e.  I am using that NLE for my 3D work now, but I would much prefer to be working in FCP X.

     

    Tom

  • 8. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    I'm afraid the codec stuff is out of my hands as a plugin developer.  This is something that Apple would need to support in the host (FCP X or Motion.)   The only other manufacturer using MVC is JVC with their similar 3D cameras.  Sony has Vegas support on Windows already so the scenario I see is that only JVC could lobby Apple for MVC support, and frankly Apple has bigger issues to worry about right now in FCP X than supporting a small group of 3D enthusiasts.  That's my own personal assessment.

     

    As for third party support the only way I could see it work is if someone developed a decoder application for the Mac.   Unfortunately this would also require licensing a MVC decoder from a company like MainConcept, and then building it from the ground up.  According to Sony's brochure for the NX3D1, Cineform is developing such a utility, but it doesn't say if it will support the Mac.

  • 9. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Sjoerd De Vries Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Is the Panasonic HDC-TM900 with de stereo lens supported (VW-CTL1)?

    I no these files only have half frame size support.

     

    Or is this also a  codec support

  • 10. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    You can definitely use the side by side files from the HDC-TM900 with VW-CLT1 3D lens. Just be aware that the VW-CLT1 doesn't fill the frame so you will have to scale the image up at least 5% to get rid of the black border. We have a slider for that in the plugin to maintain the alignment while scaling.

  • 11. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    You can now download v3.0 of Stereo3D Toolbox LE here: http://www.dashwood3d.com/downloadle.php

     

    Here's the tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIvljJdea2I on YouTube.

     

    The website isn't updated yet but we had to release this version this week because of the new Lion compatibility in FxFactory.  We will update the site in the next couple of days to reflect the new features.  As always, this update is free for existing license holders.

     

    Here's what's new:

    - Plugin components now 64-bit Snow Leopard & Lion (10.5 Leopard is no longer officially supported)

    - Compatible with FCE 4, FCP 6 & 7, Motion 4 or 5, AE CS3, 4, 5, 5.5 & FCP X 10.0

    - Compatible with Hasbro's my3D format http://www.hasbro.com/hasbromy3d/en_US/

    - Instantly work with GoPro's 3D files in FCP X without any transcoding or muxing.  Same goes for Panasonic's AG-3DA1.  See the tutorial for step-by-step method.

    - Includes quick nest tools for building side by side compound clips or nests (works very well in FCP X.)  Also detailed in tutorial.

    - Now includes the Global Output Mode feature from Stereo3D Toolbox

    - Now includes Anaglyph B&W and Anaglyph Outline mode

    - 2D bypass output option

     

    We are working on a brand new website that will launch at the same time as Stereo3D Toolbox v3.0 and Stereo3D CAT v1.0, hopefully within two weeks.

  • 12. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    walkthemoon Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    At the momet only Sony Vegas v. 10D is supported. Just purchased Stereo3D Toolbox for future use. It's up to Apple for 3D support. Anyway Sony HDR-TD10E makes stunning 1080/24/25/50 clips.

  • 13. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    Tim Dashwood Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Unfortunately Sony's bundled software for the HDR-TD10 and HXR-NX3D1 (pro version of TD10 with 24p and XLR inputs) for managing the MVC 3D files is Windows-only. There is no Mac support yet.

     

    Sony's "Browser" app for Windows will split the MVC into separate left and right avi files and then you can move those over to the mac, but it is an extra step that takes more time than any of us would like.

     

    On the other hand JVC's GY-HMZ1 is going to be bundled with Mac and Windows software to split the MVC into discreet left and right AVCHD (no transcoding, just extracting and copying the two streams to separate files.) These new files can then be dragged directly into FCP X and used as described in the tutorial mentioned in my last post.   The JVC TD1 and HMZ1 can both record directly to standard AVCHD in side by side mode in 1080i60 if you don't want to deal with MVC at all.

     

    You will not be able to use JVC's MVC management software with Sony's files because they use completely different file structures for their MVC files.

  • 14. Re: Does FCPX work with stereoscopy files?
    walkthemoon Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Yet. I'm looking onto solutions to split MVC data stream. I dont want to buy Sony Vergas and use it in a Windows. For now there little software to edit Sony MTS MVC strams and all them are for Windows most even beta... I know there are way, if somebody will do a QuickTime MTS MVC splitter wich Stereo3D can handle.

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